I really think it is time for us to treat LLM usage as another form of metadata, such as licensing.
As a user, I want to know if my software contains LLM.
As a developper I want to know if a project accepts LLM usage.
As a web-surfer I want to know if this content has been made by a human.
I don't think we can trust people (especially companies) to disclose their usage, so it's essentially a web-of-trust/web-of-shame.
Is any RFC already up? I wanna talk about this.
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technomancy#406 channel on libera.chat the creator of https://406.fail/ mentioned that they were working on a draft for this@berru that's also why I asked @fdroidorg whether they will also start disclosing it is their catalogue
@[email protected] do you have a not created using AI tag on Fdroid?
@berru @xgranade The problem is any labeling effort also helps the LLMs avoid model collapse. If LLMs can preferentially train on human content, the bubble will last longer and destroy more.
This doesn't mean we shouldn't label, but it does mean that labeling without other countermeasures against LLM scrapers may help LLM corporations more than it helps humans. IMHO labelling is best done in spaces where it is difficult for LLM scrapers to gain access.
@berru @xgranade I would argue there are a number of good countermeasures, such as iocaine for websites: https://iocaine.madhouse-project.org/
This may not be practical on corporate-owned platforms like GitHub, but for actual websites I think there is a lot we can do to block scrapers or make it more difficult for them to function.
At this point I think we should also consider darknets and purely analog distribution systems, I think people aren't worried enough.
@berru @skyfaller I mean, fair, but also not doing something that humans need because AI vendors can misuse it can't *always* be the right answer.
I don't even disagree that it's *sometimes* the right approach, just there has to be a balance where there's room for us to take care of us.
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