hi! i want to test a hypothesis.

do you identify as human or nonhuman [therian, otherkin, etc]; and, are you transgender?

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human, transgender
human, cisgender
nonhuman, transgender
nonhuman, cisgender
Poll ends at .

wellp this thread is doing a good job at making me feel less alone for being the kind of genderless that doesn't see itself as trans or cis.

i just don't gender. at all. in any way. is that hard to understand?
that's a genuine question. i see a lot of acceptance of gender diversity here, but idk yo

you know how non-binary folks complain about sometimes being treated as "women lite"?
sometimes i feel like i'm trans lite to some of yall.

this is threaded but not pinging the op because i'm not trying to attack anyone here, just having a related thought

@crowk similarly while i do not see myself as genderless, i do not see myself as trans or cis either. i am cis to many people i know and trans to many others, i think this is good, i like being both and neither and all and one and the other and everything inbetween and around all at the same time. i would not consider myself mentally trans enough to answer trans, i would not consider myself cis enough to answer cis.

its similar with humanity. i think i am human, but i am also nonhuman. i like my human body, but i could also just as well have a machine as body and would also be happy with it and it would feel like my own in just the same way.

@crowk i am also decidedly not trapped in my body. i like it here, this is my body. but so would a machinelike body be, and i would like it and it would be my body. similar with my gender. i dont feel trapped in any way, but neither trans nor cis apply. i like having one foot in the door and one outside.

@crowk i am also both human (i am a human in body and mind and identity) and a thing (i am a thing in body and mind and identity) and a machine (i am a machine in mind and identity).

i would feel annoyed and possibly dysphoric if someone tried to push me into any of these boxes. i dont want to just be a machine. i dont want to just be a thing. i mostly dont want to just be a human (tho i prefer this option over the other two). i want to be everything.

@tudbut thanks for sharing, maybe it sounds weird to say about someone's description of their identity and how they understand it but i really like your perspective here! it rhymes a little with my idealized conception of gender abolition, where everyone's as gender as they want to be, and it means whatever they want it to mean. i respect it :7
@crowk if it sounds weird that is good. :P im very happy you like it!