So are there...ANY non-ethically-compromised browsers out there anymore?

(Besides Safari, I guess, except not exactly a power user friendly option, and the recent Apple Maps ads news doesn't bode well for them either.)

Rhetorical question, really. Turns out there's no money in the space otherwise...

What are we even doing as a species.

Browser chat: as expected the main signal I'm getting here is Vivaldi, with a side of Firefox forks. I'll do some research but

a) either of those options are of course slightly tainted by still consuming the upstream (albeit DUH why would someone try writing a browser engine from scratch in this environment…I get it…but also someone plz write a non-early-access wrapper around Servo…)

b) given how everything else is these days, you can't just look at a tool, you have to look at /the people behind the tool/. So I gotta find out /who is/ Vivaldi and are /they/ good people. Ditto the FF forks, I've been burned before by useful-tech-providing nerds turning out to hold bad social opinions (see: Kagi).

c) I am also unfortunately addicted to FF/Safari/Chrome style sync, ie zero-friction "throwing" tabs from my tablet to my desktop. IDK if the downstream options can do that…maybe I need a homelab WebDAV server or something? 🫠

@bitprophet Orion uses iCloud for syncing and WebKit for rendering, and does a pretty good job of sharing tabs between your iDevices. It’s also privacy oriented, and has no inbuilt AI. The only complaint I’ve heard about it is that it’s not open source, but I don’t really see that being disqualifying for most Apple users. They’ve also got a Linux version in beta (alpha?), but I haven’t tried it because I don’t want to install flatpak on my nice, clean Gentoo.