MicroWaveAt Pentagon Christian service, Hegseth prays for violence 'against those who deserve no mercy'
T00l_shedGod is love DEATH! Praise Jesus!
Religion: make it up to be whatever you want it to be.
Well technically it was made up on the first place…
It is.
EldritchThe problem is what parts you choose to read and focus on. Violent abusers are all about that old testament. The only good Samaritan to them is a dead one. They generally shun the new testament because that’s where all the namby pamby you are your brothers keeper stuff comes in.
Oh, the book is horrendous. Cannot recommend.
But the overarching story of this Jesus character they obsess over, I think that guy had something to say about mercy.
CharlesDarwinI think a lot of them would love to be one of the Romans “helping out”:
A Clockwork Orange Roman Alex flogging Jesus
The point of Christianity is that if you can convince people that they shouldn’t expect any rewards until they die, you get a really compliant set of workers and soldiers who will let you impoverish and mistreat them because “the meek will inherit the earth.” You know, after your value has been fully extracted by the owners.
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TrickDacyIt is, if you actually believe in it. Unfortunately practically none of them actually do. And discouragingly, most atheists would love for you to believe that the world would be no better off if they actually believed in and followed the teachings of Jesus. It clearly would be. Does that mean Christianity isn’t full of issues? Nope. But it does mean that clearly we’d be better off if people treated each other as they wished to be treated themselves. And yes before the atheists say it, we ALL KNOW this idea is not unique to Christianity. But it’s kind of key to that religion for the small minority of Christians who actually give a shit about it.
And discouragingly, most atheists would love for you to believe that the world would be no better off if they actually believed in and followed the teachings of Jesus.
What a shallow caricature. I’ve never met an atheist who didn’t basically agree with the teachings of Jesus, even if they didn’t believe he existed. But I’ve met many Christians who seemed completely at odds with them.
What a shallow reading of my comment. This thread is full of people raging about Christianity being an evil cult. So I don’t really have to prove that point. Just about any thread on Lemmy where this comes up is the same.
Not long ago someone flipped out on me for making this point, accusing me of defending the church which I hadn’t done in any way. What usually is happening, when people disagree on this, is assumptions are being made about what each party believes. I am sure most atheists would agree with those teachings yes, but online if it comes up you’re either a brainwashed Christian or a hardcore atheist who hates Christianity. At least that’s how people think of each other. The nuance is erased, and it’s a damn shame.
“What’s the 5th commandment Pete?”
Well, ya see, they’re morons. That’s why I sacrifice to Odin. You want no mercy? Pray to the guy who hung himself on a tree by choice, not the one who got his pacifist ass nailed to one by the authorities.
If you consider the Inquisitor Cycle, people do not. Jesus took revenge after the Romans tried to kill him, and refused to die for anyone’s sins. Christianity is based on having no mercy whatsoever.
Maybe Terry Silver.
SystemDiscThe Christian god is actually very wrathful and routinely causes death and suffering in the bible
leadoreI thought the point of Christianity was that everyone deserves mercy?
There are many sects of “Christianity”. A flavor for every world view. These are Christian Nationalists. Their version of it has little to do with such woke things as “mercy”. It’s mostly an authoritarian view with a strict hierarchy.
nymnympseudonymYes but he can/is usong religion to get what could be otherwise be good people to do evil things.
I say could be otherwise good because once you’re doing evil…well, evil is as evil does.
And what is it that rotted Hegseth’s mind, so that from an early age he failed to learn critical thinking, and instead learned to “go with what feels good”, to accept moral decisions being made by Someone With Greater Authority, to have firm beliefs based on no fucking evidence?
Hegseth was not “born evil” – he didn’t start murdering his preschool classmates. He learned to stop thinking, to just take orders, to abdicate responsibility … which are what makes him evil.
Like child rapists, pete? Pete? PETE WHY ARE YOU SILENT?
Does this guy know anything about Jesus, at all?
I’m so sick of these fake Christian assholes.
fake Christian
Try reading the Old Testament. You don’t get to disown these people. They absolutely are Christians.
Okay but “Christian” includes the New Testament and the new covenant. That replaces a lot of the suffering/sacrafice/punishment based covenant in the Old Testament.
I’m not a theologian so I can’t argue good here. You kinda have Christ in your teachings and heart or you don’t.
Do I really need to quote Matthew 5:17-19again?
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
And remember, those laws included explicitly outlined rules for how you should treat your slave.
Jesus? The guy who makes threats like these to any who oppose him? What a hideous, vile individual. He’d be a great roommate for Pol Pot, Stalin, or Kim Jong Il. Don’t sanewash his brutality.
John 3:18
whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
John 3:36
whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.
Matthew 25:41–46
Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Matthew 13:41–42
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(Regarding those who do not belong to His Kingdom)
Nahum 1:2
God is jealous, and the Lord revengeth; the Lord revengeth, and is furious; the Lord will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.
Leviticus 20:27
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
None of those quotes actually call for people to be or celebrate violence though.
This is a religious war for these people. They believe they are sending the next wave of the crusades.
Well crusades always work out great. Let’s read about a famous one!
A boy began to preach in either France or Germany, claiming that he had been visited by Jesus, who instructed him to lead a crusade in order to peacefully convert Muslims to Christianity. Through a series of portents and miracles, he gained a following of up to 30,000 children. He led his followers south towards the Mediterranean Sea, in the belief that the sea would part on their arrival, which would allow him and his followers to walk to Jerusalem. This did not happen. Instead, two French merchants promised to take some children across the sea to the Holy Land. However, the children were either taken to Tunisia where they were sold into slavery by the merchants, or shipwrecked on San Pietro Island off Sardinia.
SeeMarkFlyThere is no hate like Christian love.
They will love you to death.
Hahaha
I loathe barrages. They’re good for two things:
- locking out an objective for X amoumt of time while not actually achieving much of value
- killing squaddies because you can’t be bothered checking who is in the blast radius
Barrages will miss every bot fabricator while somehpw fragging all 4 of you with laser precision.
Lemmyng“I forgive you, because I love you, and I love you…
…to death.”
Billy and Mandy - Pud'n vs. Bunny
So he’s suicidal now?
GOD wants to HELP thy Neighbor! to LOVE thy Neighbor! to RESPECT thy Neighbor! to MURDER PEOPLE!
-Christians!
Nobody likes an angry drunk, Pete.
If you kill Americans, if you threaten Americans anywhere on Earth, we will hunt you down without apology and without hesitation, and we will kill you.
A previous statement by Hegseth some time ago. Man, this guy’s bloodthirsty.
Who is we? I don’t see him out in battle.
lumpenproletariatSo when’s he going after Hegseth? I heard that dude has gotten a lot of Americans killed lately.
He’s the dumbass that peaked in high school.
That doesn’t matter if he’s been failing upwards ever since.