I've watched the #ChatControl session live, which was the first #EUParliament plenary session I've ever watched, and I have questions.
Or, generally speaking: Are we sure that, even if the elected MEPs are the ones we voted for, they actually submit correct votes? Not because they're secretly evil, but because the whole voting process seems so confusing and user-hostile.
I really need to learn more about it all works
> Are we sure that, even if the elected MEPs are the ones we voted for, they actually submit correct votes?
@jwildeboer has a nice story about that. I wonder if he would share it.
@kytta
Usually with show of hands votes, it's done to make voting go much quicker when only a simple majority is required because the leader can just eyeball the number and only request a tallied vote if it seems close (vs. clear majority/minority).
It seems like it's possible for anyone voting to contest a subjective call if they want a tallied vote too: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/presse/pr_post_story/2006/EN/03A-DV-PRESSE_STO(2006)06-28(09319)_EN.pdf
(it's funny that document compares it to Greek poleis voting because polis that were oligarchic used show of hands voting that would never be tallied explicitly because it made it very easy for the oligarchs to claim the vote result was whatever they wanted, or if necessary just have paid people join the vote to raise/lower hands. Although Athens under Pericles didn't do that naturally since they were actually democratic)
As for the wording, I guess they can probably untangle it since they're presumably legal-minded and are generally politicians used to tortured rhetoric
1. Unclear, but this is the video about mistakes which happen because of quick show of hands https://youtube.com/watch?v=GiJ2IKomiFg (1.5 minutes short)
2. Because of a lot of votes. Can be many hundreds per day (for example, 300). This is good video https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ll6egB1AElk showing the voting process (short, but quite comprehensive for 1 minute)
3. I guess, because it is complex process. For example, vote FOR to reject a revote FOR child protection BUT AGAINST chat control, except all kinds of amendments proposed by parties swaying vote to either direction, like happened today, so even EPP who proposed a revote after accepted amendment voted against their own overall idea.
"whole voting process seems so confusing and user-hostile."
Usually they vote what the party tells them, so they copy the party position when voting, so it is a bit simpler just to copy others or what their party (group) decided.
Exception in 2nd video above where independent MEPs have to put more of their own work and prepare well before the vote.
@kytta check out this video by a Polish former MEP (english subtitles included):
Nikita Karamov
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