Sometimes I wonder… I come from two Milanese industrialist families who worked hard to keep their factories going (and failed in one case due to, literally, natural causes aka a dam disaster) and, reading the responses to my LinkedIn post about salary dumping in Ticino, I cannot reconcile it with anything I have ever heard from my parents or grandparents.

This bizarre concept that it is the workers and the international treaties which somehow "force" the companies to use cheap labour is spectacular.

Of course my families tried to run a profit but, in one case, literally financed one of the most skilled workers to set up their own shop and become a supplier with a guaranteed 5-yr 100% purchase cover before they could work alone (their family is still in business!), the other spent literally almost all their fortune to provide for the worker families hit by the disaster.

I should add that my grandfather's idea of "owner luxury" was going on holiday in Rimini for two weeks, having a large apartment in a new development towards Milan Linate airport, and driving an Alfa Romeo Alfetta, not "two yachts, three Ferrari, five villas." That might explain things...

Having said this I was brought up in a left-wing family and the only comment when I said I was an â’¶ was "perhaps too much?" which is fair :)

@cynicalsecurity it's just opportunism. Wage dumping is exactly that: we demand top end capabilities but we don't value you enough to pay market rate.

The answer is "no".

@cynicalsecurity and I don't think it is a particularly left wing view or basically creating suppliers locally is a left wing act either. Left vs right... Blah. It's a sensible move that keeps long term skilled work doing what they do, giving them a stake, showing everyone they're not just a cog.
@cynicalsecurity for every ethical business model, there is a more profitable unethical business model...
@siguza @cynicalsecurity That sounds like a #RuleOfAcquisition if I've ever heard one.
it's only more profitable because unethical people support the business

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@nathanael @cynicalsecurity no, it's more profitable because of an inherent asymmetry of information.

"Oh, every one of our customers should have done deep investigative research into our company's business partners to find out that our goods are produced with overseas slave labour, if they really cared about such things, even though we actively lied about that many times."

Fuck off with that individual responsibility bullshit.

complaining about things you can't control doesn't seem helpful/reasonable to me

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@nathanael @cynicalsecurity consider: regulations.
i am not in a position to put regulations into place and i don't like being told what to do, so i am not a big fan of regulations in general

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