Operating System Political Compass - Updated version
What about people who turned to w10 ltc as a compromise and to avoid w11?
That top left hand corner could be filled with a selection of these: www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
List of Free GNU/Linux Distributions - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

I would not really expect it at the top. It may fit the definition of authoritarian in some ways but I almost certainly wouldn’t expect it to be corporate.
I ran Parabola for a year. Definitely authoritarian
Hey, there’s enough of us on here to do a Lemmy hug of death!
How is “wait 24 hours before installing an app” Android less corporate/authoritarian than Windows? Plus most Android devices are stuck running Android whereas you can always replace Windows with Linux
I think they meant the AOSP but technically most people also call that Android
AOSP, the operating system that nobody actually installs on anything. It’s about as niche as could possibly be, considering the only reason you’d install it is to work on the code.
For aesthetic reasons the chart only allows one OS per square, and any other arrangement would put Windows dangerously low. At least Android is mostly open-source.
There’s two squares for windows.
Right? No other OS gets two versions included.
Android is not mostly open source. Have you seen how incredibly limited AOSP is? It’s basically useless without all of the closed source parts Google puts on top.
“Some people don’t like snap”. I had the suspicion is was most people don’t like snap.
No one significant; just security people, system architects, build/release people and support people, because of all the best-practice it breaks. Who cares about those chumps?!?

*most end users.

Better?

I’m yet to find a person who likes Snap, actually. Even if you prefer that way of installation, people just go to Flatpak.
I am a person who likes the snap package over some flatpaks. Mostly because the snap integration is sometimes better. Like handling copy/paste or notification bubbles.

i think the lower left square should probably be extended further. where’s serenity? where’s 9front? where’s oberon?

come to think of it, you could probably put metas and microsofts internal linux distros in the top left. can’t remember what they’re called now, but they’re niche and corpo as hell.

Android is surveillance capitalism embodied

This is a much better version than the last one.

Needs TempleOS outside of the box

Isn’t that it in the bottom left?
TempleOS is outside of the box
For top left I’d like to humbly nominate SCO Unix.
OpenServer - Wikipedia

Where does Bazzite fit into this? (Sincerely, someone who wants to switch to either Bazzite or CachyOS and can’t decide between them)
wedged in between cachy and fedora I would say
There’s an argument that it would be between Fedora and Ubuntu, since being immutable makes it more locked down and you are beholden to the devs to push out important updates like drivers. Then again it is basicallt customized Fedora Atomic so if we’re counting “Fedora” as an average of all Fedora versions, maybe not

I see this misconception all the time about Fedora Atomic distros. You can actually install any normal package available through the included repos, or add your own repo (rpm-ostree install $pkg). DNF can be used to add a repo from a URL and then you just use rpm-ostree install $pkg . It is really that simple.

The reason you aren’t supposed to is that it makes the system diverge from the default image by overlaying the package. Still though, Fedora Atomic is just Fedora but container images for updates.

Interesting, are their really no other major differences than the container images? Have you ran into any additional hurdles with the atomic experience? You may have convinced me to try Bazzite or SecureBlue.

I personally adhere to the idea of avoiding installing too many overlayed packages. Most i have installed in like five (with dependencies) at once. If you are comfortable with still using mostly Flatpaks and (only) a few overlayed packages, then Atomic may still be for you.

I really do recommend Secureblue.

That would include not installing Nvidia drivers though, no?
Yes, just get the Nvidia version of Secureblue/Bazzite and you are good.

“Open source unlike iOS”

Lol.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU

github.com/…/distribution-macOS

AOSP hasn’t been a complete operating system in a long time, so don’t tell me Android is open source.

Darwin (operating system) - Wikipedia

To be fair though, you can build a more open android distribution like Graphene or Lineage, which you can’t do with iOS. Still an awful platform though

Come back when they have user flash-able, daily drivable forks.

Lol.

How the fuck did you manage to place Microsoft on a lower tier, Corporate-wise?

Yeah and MacOS is not more locked down than ChromeOS. That shit is useless. At least you can mess with Unix and terminal commands on Macs

Also you can install it in hackintoshes but that’s not an official thing so I don’t fault that point.

I vote gLinux for the top left corner. Specifically made for in house work at Google, not officially available me anywhere else.
Could probably pop OS/2 or MorphOS in the top left

I feel like BSDs being more over in the corpo-lib corner would make more sense just from a licensing perspective

If you’re memeing, hard to omit Red Star OS

Isn’t that Red Star way over there in the top left corner?
Sorry yes, I meant that separate from the first point
Ah yes Ubuntu, basically the same as windows.
Auth/lib is very cringe 🫠
nixos is on the wrong side. literally funded by the United States’ war machine.

how does it compare to other distros on the chart?

e.g. i can imagine that many military people us RHEL (which already is on the appropriate place on the chart).

Poor SLES not being on the board with Redhat, ubuntu, and windows server.
I use Fedora but it should probably be on the corpo side of the line because it is part of the RHEL family.
It is technically fully community driven though. And if you moved it up you’d need more squares. No way in hell is it on the same level of corporate as Ubuntu, or especially Android.

Saying Redhat is based on Fedora just seems wrong. I know there was discussion about this when the simpler version was posted and I think I understand that, today, RHEL is downstream of Fedora. But Redhat existed before Fedora so it still feels wrong to say Fedora is based on Redhat.

“Fedora Core 1 was the first version of Fedora and was released on November 6, 2003.[15] It was codenamed Yarrow. Fedora Core 1 was based on Red Hat Linux 9.”

And putting RHEL anywhere but top line is sacrilege. Its actually, literally, specifically an IBM-purchased company’s product. The Linux part is free, but there’s corporate “special sauce” thrown in that’s closed source.
Doesn’t Alma still require you to register with RedHat? How the hell is that more left than many OS’s that don’t require a phone home?!
In the super niche and very corporate corner, you should put Windows Server, because nobody uses Windows fucking Server.
This is absolutely terrible.

FreeBSD on the “Indy” side? I uh… Have to disagree. There’s routers that ship with FreeBSD SPECIFICALLY because their license has no obligation to share sourcecode.

And putting RHEL anything but top line makes the whole thing unserious. A PRODUCT YOU BUY to even be able to download it is somehow not 100% corpo to you? Its named after the IBM-owned company that releases it. It is not 100% open source, it is Linux with proprietary “secret sauce” that’s mostly for Servers - a niche usecase.

Alma is “built for enterprise” but somehow Indy? Now I know you’re just messing with us. This cannot be serious.

Excellent Troll.

Improving over the prior version.

Still may help to make the axis labels more pronounced and/or stop using the political compass colours.

Some people don’t like Snaps” 😂
Putting Kali Linux, a Distro specifically for cybersecurity and hackers, anywhere near the “corporate” axis, could be considered a war crime in some places.

macOS*

I use NixOS btw.

Where is TempleOS?
Bottom left off grid.