I didn't realize the facebook execs Mozilla acqui-hired last year have been promoted! I was assuming they were still just heading the ads division of Mozilla, but oh boy, I fucking wish.

Now the
former Senior VP of Marketing of facebook (2008-2022, the finest years of facebook) is the CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER of the entire Mozilla.

And the
former VP of Ads in Facebook (2012-2022), is now the Senior VP of Product of Mozilla.

Let me repeat this:

The guy who used to lead the facebook team that was literally "
advertising to teenagers based on their emotional state" is now the guy who decides the direction of Firefox as a product. But hey, let's keep giving Mozilla the benefit of the doubt uh? I'm sure these people-who-should-be-on-trial-in-the-hague are going to do great things for the community!
Mozilla Leadership

Mozilla

@javi The biggest issue for me is the lack of browser engines. Forking from Mozilla isn’t enough. An alternative from both chromium and gecko is needed.

There needs to be a new option that won’t come with the baggage or existing slop.

It’s the quicker option but it’s not the best option..

Until that happens every browser will be an offshoot of it and not that much better

@64bithero @javi

There's the Ladybird web browser project, which is a new engine built from the ground up.

https://ladybird.org

Ladybird

Ladybird is a truly independent web browser, backed by a non-profit.

Orion Browser by Kagi

Orion — a web browser designed from the ground-up. Native WebKit speed, full extension compatibility, and absolute privacy is finally together in one browser that respects you.

Orion Browser
@mrgrumpymonkey @TheLastOfHisName @javi I love Kagi and their browser. It’s a still a work in progress (Mac only) and not open source but they are good people ..
@64bithero @TheLastOfHisName @javi Are there other browser out there that don't rely on Chromium or Firefox forks? I feel like we need a list of everything that's in the works.
@InsiderTreat @64bithero @TheLastOfHisName @javi @Vivaldi I recently shifted from Vivaldi to Helium. I guess I'll add this to this thread. It's only for Linux & the Appimage seems to break the MX Package installer while it's running. I hope for a .deb package eventually. There's already an AUR for Arch. It's my main Chromium browser on CachyOS.
https://helium.computer/
Helium Browser

The web browser made for people, with love. Best privacy by default, unbiased ad-blocking, no bloat and no noise. Fully open source.