javi16h ago
I didn't realize the facebook execs Mozilla acqui-hired last year have been promoted! I was assuming they were still just heading the ads division of Mozilla, but oh boy, I fucking wish.

Now the former Senior VP of Marketing of facebook (2008-2022, the finest years of facebook) is the CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER of the entire Mozilla.

And the former VP of Ads in Facebook (2012-2022), is now the Senior VP of Product of Mozilla.

Let me repeat this:

The guy who used to lead the facebook team that was literally "advertising to teenagers based on their emotional state" is now the guy who decides the direction of Firefox as a product. But hey, let's keep giving Mozilla the benefit of the doubt uh? I'm sure these people-who-should-be-on-trial-in-the-hague are going to do great things for the community!
Mozilla Leadership

Mozilla
Show threadJimmothy Baggins14h ago

@javi The biggest issue for me is the lack of browser engines. Forking from Mozilla isn’t enough. An alternative from both chromium and gecko is needed.

There needs to be a new option that won’t come with the baggage or existing slop.

It’s the quicker option but it’s not the best option..

Until that happens every browser will be an offshoot of it and not that much better

Show threadDane 🌎🖖✌️☮️⚛️☸️🕉️10h ago

@64bithero @javi

There's the Ladybird web browser project, which is a new engine built from the ground up.

https://ladybird.org

Ladybird

Ladybird is a truly independent web browser, backed by a non-profit.

Show threadMrGrumpyMonkey9h ago
@TheLastOfHisName @64bithero @javi Let's include Orion.
https://orionbrowser.com/
Orion Browser by Kagi

Orion — a web browser designed from the ground-up. Native WebKit speed, full extension compatibility, and absolute privacy is finally together in one browser that respects you.

Orion Browser
Show threadJimmothy Baggins9h ago
@mrgrumpymonkey @TheLastOfHisName @javi I love Kagi and their browser. It’s a still a work in progress (Mac only) and not open source but they are good people ..
Show threadMrGrumpyMonkey9h ago
@64bithero @TheLastOfHisName @javi Are there other browser out there that don't rely on Chromium or Firefox forks? I feel like we need a list of everything that's in the works.
Show threadInsiderTreat9h ago
@mrgrumpymonkey @64bithero @TheLastOfHisName @javi I'm a big fan of @Vivaldi !!
Show threadJimmothy Baggins
@InsiderTreat @mrgrumpymonkey @TheLastOfHisName @javi @Vivaldi Still Chromium based :( but always good to have options
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Show threadInsiderTreat9h ago
@64bithero @mrgrumpymonkey @TheLastOfHisName @javi @Vivaldi oh I didn't realize. TIL.
Show threadMrGrumpyMonkey9h ago
@InsiderTreat @64bithero @TheLastOfHisName @javi @Vivaldi Most known browsers are forks of either Chromium or Firefox. Of the Chromium browsers, Vivaldi is what I'd have most people use. It was my most used Chromium fork and is very stable. As long as it functions for your purpose, keep using it.
Show threadDan 🌈4h ago
@mrgrumpymonkey
The last remaining hope is https://servo.org/ , a fully independent and open source browser engine. Unfortunately, because of those same two points, it's underfunded and development is very slow. :(
@InsiderTreat @64bithero @TheLastOfHisName @javi @Vivaldi
Servo aims to empower developers with a lightweight, high-performance alternative for embedding web technologies in applications.

Servo is a web rendering engine written in Rust, with WebGL and WebGPU support, and adaptable to desktop, mobile, and embedded applications.

Servo
Show threadMrGrumpyMonkey4h ago
@phrawzty @InsiderTreat @64bithero @TheLastOfHisName @javi @Vivaldi Turns out they have a mastodon page.
@servo I have since followed. Perhaps one day I can toss em a few extra bucks.