eta: thanks, i ended up suggesting DeltaChat, but leaving this thread open if other people are looking

hi can someone tell me how to either use signal without ever using a phone or another encrypted messaging service that doesn't require a phone?

note to the linux people that this is for someone who is dealing with meta removing encryption, it can't be too difficult

@forestine delta.chat has a reasonably easy setup flow assuming you're both in person. it can't do calling though afaik

signal categorically requires a phone number i think. you can setup an account without a smartphone via third-party tools but none of them are "easy" i dont think. the easiest one i can think of (signal-cli) still requires basic command line knowledge
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@aleteoryx @forestine Yes, Signal requires some sort of phone number. That can be voip or even a landline.

DeltaChat shows great potential though I haven’t dug into its security. Signal is the gold standard even though the phone number requirement is prohibitive for some.