sabrina show portrayed lucifer as one with the goat head, i dont think other shows ever portrayed other than a “DEMON” looking person. he still an angel though

The traditional depiction of Baphomet, since before Christianity has existed, has had a goat head.

Turn off the television.

never said that lol, your making shit up.

No, you just spewed some brain dead nonsense about television characters.

Why don’t you take a break and have a juice box? This conversation is obviously flying over your head.

Watch “Sandman” on Netflix. Really an accurate Lucifer, if you ask me.
When I see all those christian pedo-nazis, if I were to believe in all this BS (which I fucking don’t), Hell is sure when I wanna end up. I don’t want to spent eternity raping children and shooting people of color in paradise.
And their music is gonna suuuuuuuuck
There’s some cool old Christian music but I bet they’re just playing creed in heaven.
so is their food. if drug use, hedonism and gluttony are sins, who is going to cook for them?
See, you get why some of us Cross lackeys are aiming for the Pit. An Eternity in heaven is getting harder to sell by the day with the company it claims.
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Satan’s not out here murdering 168 school children. Christians are doing that.
Yes religions are the cause of every issues /s not imperialism or capitalism, religion.
I recall saying any of these words you’re putting in my mouth. Are you suggesting the people committing these atrocities are not what I say they are?
Organized religion is a very useful tool for imperialism and capitalism, and I’m tired of pretending it isn’t
Evangelical Christianity IS a manifestation of capitalism. It is the culture arm of capitalism.

It predate capitalism by a thousand year but ok.

You’re thinking of protestant, it’s not secret that allowing usury meant breaking up from the pope. But even then, religions are theaters of the class war, not only tools for the powerful.

Christianity predates capitalism. Evangelical Christianity is a much more modern development.
Racism literally came from Christianity. It definitely is the problem and creates a framework to allow capitalists/wealthy to take advantage of people.
From Abrahamic religions in general. They seem to share the theme a lot
yea japan isn’t notoriously racism-free

Imagine confusing Xenophobia with Racism. While there are some traditional cultural.groups that experience discrimination this does not translate to general racism like in the US or Europem.

weai.columbia.edu/…/qa-professor-michael-sharpe-r…

Most African Americans experience more freedom in Japan than in Christian dominated cultures. Why is that?

Toad opens mouth and inserts foot.

Q&A with Professor Michael Sharpe on racism and immigration in Japan | Weatherhead East Asian Institute

Because japanese racism is mostly targetting chinese and korean whereas black people is presented to them through american medias, which they consider high culture.

Japan was allied with the nazis ffs

Glad we can put you silly comment about racism to rest

The US funded the Nazi for Christ’s sake. What is your point?

My point is that the US isn’t evil specifically because it’s christians and that religion isn’t the enemy.

My wife’s muslim and the fascists here would have no problem shipping her back to the very same place where extremists attempted to her life. In the name of atheism.

Christianity is very evil, no denying it. Read the Bible, full of disgusting displays of manipulation and power.
Reddit atheists are stupid.

Literally has no clue about history. Sad.

…cofc.edu/…/pope_nicolas_v_and_the_portugu

Pope Nicolas V and the Portuguese Slave Trade · African Laborers for a New Empire: Iberia, Slavery, and the Atlantic World · Lowcountry Digital History Initiative

I know all this. Ever heard of liberation theology? Religion is a theater of the classwar, not an enemy in itself.

Nowadays secularists want to “remigrate” my wife because she’s muslims.

I have heard many theories in my life, religion has always been used to enslave and control. That is the reality.
Or rather nationalists. It’s not that the IDF is a religious organization or something
So why is the Israeli government and IDF committing a genocide?
Because of nationalism and colonialism. They might use religious rhetoric where it suits them and there are religious people in government, I don’t deny that, but over all it’s a ethnic supremecist ideology and religion is only one identity marker, not the motivator.
And all of this is rooted in religious overtones. You take the religious aspects out and I doubt this would be happening. The ethnic supremacy is rooted in religion.
Small minded response
Murican patriotic rhetoric is full of liberty and the founding fathers and the flag and stuff. Do you think, without one of these elements, there would be no nationalism?
I’m not talking about the US.
And I was giving an example of nationalism that’s more than its rhetoric
Eh, don’t know if you can truly separate the IDF and their religion. Certainly the rhetoric they employ relies upon it.
Satan doesn’t kill a single person in the Bible. Yahweh on the other hand…
Satan isn’t really much of a presence in the Bible at all. Christians made up more shit to have something to blame for everything they don’t like.

Wasn’t it that Satan did 4 things?

  • A bit of arrogant rant that he is not gonna serve humans. Got thrown to hell. By all loving father. Yeah.
  • Still prissy, nudged Eve to break the God rule abput apple. God hat a meltdown and not only banished but also cursed Adam amd Eve.
  • Teased Jesus to break his goal. Didn’t work.
  • Teased God on few occassions about devotion of humans. Then God made people suffer to prove his point.

Like, Lucifer always seemed to me more like disgruntled old family friend/worker than some evil guy.

The serpent being Satan was a retcon from the New Testament, too.

“I’m not in the business of murdering innocent children. That’s God’s jurisdiction.”

- Lucifer, The Devil’s Carnival

this is actually sad as fuck if you think about it
Religious fruit cakes need to be told what to do.

Love how the religeous claim certainty that THEIR instructions from God, and they all seem to justify their “grandad’s” values as to when to break their own principles.

Ie:

Love thy neighbour but MY NEIGHBOR got a Windmill so I should be allowed to arson!

If a thief takes your cloak, also give him your coat… but no socialism for anyone I dont know, they r all lazy bums

Etc etc

No chance any of this is u know who, or maybe just your ego? Oh no, you know cause a gut feeling and old folks said so

No chance any of this is u know who, or maybe just your ego? Oh no, you know cause a gut feeling and old folks said so

In Evangelical circles, we refer to this as discernment. Discernment is great, it explains why the bible might be confusing to some people, why it might seem to definitely contradict itself, and why it seems to be so broadly open to interpretation. To navigate all of that, you don’t trust your evil sinful gut - you use Discernment

It’s spoken about as if it is a super power you get when you become a Christian. Unfortunately, you don’t magically become discerning once you become a Christian, and plenty of people are just dumb.

When I was a kid, one of my parents’ friends had a fun idea she shared with us. She posed the thought that maybe all the different religions were real and the world was just a game of chess they were playing with us as pieces.
Woah, I think I’ve seen that anime…
I think we are a science experiment. Not limited to religion.

I read a really fun new age book titled something like “the most attractive place in the universe”. It was all kimds of woowoo but there were fun ideas in it.

What follows is a rough summary of some of those ideas an in no way represent my view of the cosmos.

Stars are angels and solar radiation is the method of sending divine instructions to creation. Our sun is Lucifer and our solar system is an experimemt in free will which makes it a desirable place for our celestial selves to choose to be incarnated. It is supposed to be a school as well as experimental lab of sorts but because free will is so attractive souls keep reincarnating here which is causing issues.

There was a whole lot more going on but this was like 30 years ago that I read it.