Shoe BillMar 25

Is there any reason not to use Gandi's built-in SMTP server for the mail, for the new instance?

Is there any reason why I should be self-hosting email?

I don't wanna.

#SelfHosted #SMTP #Email

Show threadSimon Hewison
@the if anyone offers you a service for "free" that they don't have to, consider what's in it for them? Are they attempting vendor lock-in to other adjacent products or services? Are they trying to monetize something? Do you trust that your data is safe? I don't use any of Gandi's services, so can't vouch for them.
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Show threadBytebro 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 🇬🇱Mar 25

@zymurgic

Not having a go here at all, but I think I first heard the phrase "If you're not paying for the service, then you ARE the service" about 15 to 20 years ago. People keep on getting suckered by this stuff because 'it's convenient'.

Ob Fes: I'm guilty as well bcs I still use a Gmail email address (although - finally - currently looking to 'transition')!

@the

Show threadh3artbl33d  Mar 25

@zymurgic @the

Gandi was acquired by a Dutch investment firm, formerly known as TWS - after the acquisition it was rephrased a merger and subsequently they rebranded the result to YourOnline.

TWS is the most horrible owner. Once they take over a brand it goes downhill very fast. Face first.

Show threadShoe BillMar 25

@zymurgic

The only thing I would even push back on is "free"; I've already paid for it whether I use it or not. Having said that, if it's no good then it's no good. I had some configuration mistakes initially that were 100% on me, but then after that was fixed, it seems to be working just fine. I've also never self-hosted SMTP or tried to, and I've heard a lot of bad things about self-hosted SMTP according to people who have, so that's one of the few things I'm not interested in self-hosting unless I have to. So I'm not really sure what to think here.

Show threadSimon HewisonMar 26
@the in the days of dialup, I did sysadmin at an ISP. We offered a full range of services, for a fee, but the bread-and-butter was paid dial-up with a simple monthly subscription. The dial-up service included email sub-domain of the ISP's domain, and a very basic static web hosting, again as under the sub-domain. If they wanted to use their own domain, they could pay.
offering as a sub-domain meant free advertising for the ISP.
If they wanted fancy, they could pay. Get them interested first.