ickplantYou're cured!
ZC3rr0rI mean, the chiropractor is technically correct. You’ll say goodbye to a lot of things, including IBS.
🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 Cured of all ailments, including the terminal STD known as “life.”
So, ibs has an unknown cause, right? Does it persist indefinitely in donated organs or does it eventually subside? I might have it, albeit undiagnosed, so I got curious as I’m an organ donor
You can get feces transplanted to treat a c. diff infection. Like, you swallow a pill made from human shit and it can help you. So if you need the whole ass organ transplanted, you need that.
Ok, maybe I’m wrong, but you don’t swallow another humans shit. It’s transplanted from on colon to the other, the bacteria is essentially what you want.
I said, you swallow a pill. I’m not a doctor, and I know thats not the only way. You posted a link that backs me up! Here’s another
MinnesotaGoddami knew they did pills!
that’s new. last i looked (15 years ago) they were doing pills. hence why i stopped looking.
You can just poop back and forth too
Forever?
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they don’t do ass organ transplants
They also don’t do mind control plans on hyphenation. Kudos if you’re young enough to get xkcd in a controlled setting
IBS is doctor speak for “we don’t know what’s wrong and we give up, but we recognize you have symptoms”
mojofrododojovisited a friend’s family reunion and met his chiropractor uncle. dude said he could cure diabetes and cancer.
he could barely pronounce diabetes. I will never ever understand chiropractor quackshit.
don’t write it off completely… yes there’s a bunch of bullshit, but it’s also not entirely quack shit
australia’s healthcare system covers chiropractic in limited circumstances, and our system is generally very good at evidence-based health
with a GP referral and chronic condition management plan (written by your GP: this is an offical well defined thing) you get up to 5 visits to “allied health” professionals (which includes chiro, physio, dieticians, etc)
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chrisIn germany some health insurances pay for homeopathy. It’s still bullshit. Same for chiropractors.
yeah there’s another load of shit I’ve never been able to fathom. one drop of this, diluted a zillion times, will uh, fix ya right up…
OtterIts a pretty narrow scope
www9.health.gov.au/mbs/fullDisplay.cfm?type=item&…
To me this reads like coverage for massage or other forms of non-curative pain relief, intended for those with chronic conditions that have exhausted all other options, or can’t get an appointment with a physiotherapist. I really don’t think it would be prescribed to treat the chronic condition.
I mean this is where all great medical advancements come from, right?
Comrade_SpoodTo help you out, chiropractors and their practice are full quackery and pseudo-science. HOWEVER, osteopathic medicine practiced by a DO is real medicine. Osteopathic medicine and osteopathy are two related but different things. The difference being that osteopathic medicine originates from osteopathy but they ditched all the pseudo-science and actually backed it up with science.
TLDR: If you want to get your back cracked scienctifically, find a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (aka a DO).
The fact that insurance does or doesn’t cover something is not evidence of medical efficaciousness.
In most cases, it seems like temporary relief. Like when your bigger, older brother picks you up and cracks your back. Feels great in the moment, but not a long-term fix.
whotookkarlIn my experience it was for old insecure guys who were uncomfortable going to a massage or doing any structured stretching regularly so they’d get an adjustment from a quack a few times a year instead.
plausible!
I understand chiro quack shit the same way I understand crystals and essential oils quack shit. It’s all just quack shit.
What I don’t understand is why insurance actually pays for chiro, at least sometimes.
yeah never understood how it flies under the radar of quackery
I watch ASMR to fall asleep and quackery of all kinds is very relaxing to me. I’ve noticed that chiro and chakra/aura reading/crystal and herb touching all have the same vibe. The difference is that chiro sells itself as medical, uses a lot more scientific sounding jargon in a professional looking office, where aura stuff is mystical and spiritual with candles, incense, and mandala tapestries. It’s woo-woo for people who think woo-woo is beneath them.
i was in the hospital and just had had a few major organs removed. a chiro i had never met but who went to the same cult as my parents walked into my hospital room unannounced and started lecturing me about how i would have been able to keep my organs if i’d let him give me a spinal adjustment.
my friends, a chiropracter was saved by an orderly that day.
Flip side:
Woke up in agony. I couldn’t walk without aid. Why to GP, “it’s sciatica. It’ll be ok in a few weeks. Two months at most”
6 months later and I can’t walk still.
Hospitals did the scans, X-rays, MRI, etc etc, but found nothing wrong. They did acupuncture, physio, hydrotherapy etc.
All slightly helped. However two years later I still couldn’t walk without help and then just kept on offering me pain killers.
Nope!!
My mate, “Hey, try my new chiro guy. He did wonders for me”
Me, “Lol, quacks.”
My mate, “What have you got to lose?”
Me, “Money…”
…
Mate, “Hey, told my chiro guy about you. He said pop in. The first month is free. If no improvement after then you go separate ways. What have you got to lose?”
Long story short.
On that first appointment he said he thought it was piriformis syndrome. Not back problems.
Within a month I was sitting almost pain free for the first time in two years. Within 3 months I was walking unaided for the first time in years. In 6 months I was running again.
Within a year I was 95% of what I was before the back issues. I’ll never be 100% because it wasn’t diagnosed in time and everything had ‘healed’ incorrectly.
Now, with that said, the guy was more than a chiro. He did sports body mechanics, and other things that I can’t remember now. He worked with the local lower league football squad for about ten years. And whilst they were no Manchester United they wouldn’t just let any quack work on their team.
Plus in the UK chiro’s have to be registered and follow guidelines. If they do anything illegal they are fucked.
Flip side to my flip side:
The mother in law went to a chiro who said he could cure her spine curvature disorder. Anyways I find out when she’s complaining of (extra) back pain, so I tell her to stop going as the guy is obviously a dodgy bastard. Within the year the guy was arrested for his illegal shenanigans.
let me tell you the first illegal thing the chiro did the day i saw him
walk into a hospital he was unaffiliated with.
He did sports body mechanics, and other things that I can’t remember now.
Ok, so he had more training than most US chiropractors.
So many are basically malpractice that it’s safer to say the whole bunch is spoiled atp
It sounds more like you didn’t see what the US would consider a “chiropractor”, but rather an orthopedics/sports medicine specialist. Maybe he was just advertising as a chiropractor to attract clients or maybe your buddy was confused about his credentialing?
Chiropractors don’t need to be licensed or registered with anything in the US. It’s all pseudoscience mumbo-jumbo.
Herbal GamerSo that’s why I keep getting confused because around here, a chiropractor absolutely needs a license and I never heard them taut the cure-all bullshit I keep reading about.
They absolutely require licensing. It’s by state.
FizzI had a bit of back gain and I went to a chrio once and this tiny Asian women beat the living shit out me. I swear she elbow dropped onto my spine. It made my back so sore I was unable to move for 3 days. I called to tell them it had gotten significantly worse and they replied that means its working come back for another session. I never returned and it healed up perfectly fine.
AeriRegularly scheduled warning but chiropractor is not a real doctor and can paralyze you for life.
Also the guy who invented it learned the practice from a ghost during a seance
you’re fucking with me, right?
D.D. Palmer “received chiropractic from the other world” from a deceased physician named Dr. Jim Atkinson.
regularly scheduled reminder that real Chiropractors are highly trained and not paid extra money to prescribe you a medication that has a warning label that includes the very minor side effects of… may cause: dizziness, nausea, rashes, cancer, and a mild case of death.
Who are these mythical “real chiropractors” that you speak of?
It’s pseudoscience, and always has been.
go for alternative and wholistic chiropractors not mainstream ones. and stop spouting the American chemical medicine propaganda that any and all alternative medicines are shit. sure you can’t fix genetic shit with a chiropractor… but you are more likely to heal faster from a physical injury with a chiropractor than using meds and a physical therapist (by about 2-3 months depending on the injury severity).
You know what they call alternative medicine that works? It’s called medicine.
Is the healthcare system designed to extract as much value as possible from people? Absolutely, but unlike a chiropractor they aren’t likely to leave your paralyzed from a routine visit. “Alternative medicine” only really exists due to a historical choice by the FDA to not regulate supplements back when supplements were an absolutely tiny market and now the supplement industry is as big as the regulated medicine industry. One of these things is regulated so it won’t kill you/destroy your life, the other isn’t. I’d rather take the safer route.
Safe like the hundreds of FDA approved drugs that later turned out to be deadly? or safe like the FDA approved drugs that were found to be placebo effects? safe like the pills that have more warning labels on them than a nuke? or safe like the e-stims used by physical therapists that ended up hurting patients because there weren’t limits set on their usage?
oh and my personal favorites since you mentioned them. all of the FDA approved supplements that turned out to be terrible. like the Modern Warrior Ready capsules.
Some of the FDA’s biggest fuckups: opioids-- addiction Diethylstilbestrol (DES), 1971 – cancer Bextra, 2005 – toxic epidermal necrolysis which had a 50% lethality rate Vioxx, 2004 – the FDA ignored evidence of harm for years Fen-Phen, 1997 – the FDA ignored reports of horrific side-effects until a woman died Darvon/Darvocet – it took the FDA 50+ years to remove this after approving in it 1957
other fuckups by the FDA: slow response to contaminated baby food approving known risky drugs like Aduhelm allowing purposefully misleading marketing in 2017 an FDA inspector found serious issues with a Chinese manufacturing plant. superiors in the FDA ordered the issue to be ignored and even suppressed. Pharma kickbacks for approval of drugs (Pharma pays FDA to approve without testing) FDA director who took bribes to approve aspartame The protein scandal in China where the FDA knew that the tested samples were being spiked and the FDA looked the other way letting around 300000 children get sick, with around 54000 hospitalized and 6 babies died.
The FDA has a history of ignoring recommendations from advisory committees, taking bribes to let drugs pass inspection, and even knowing buries evidence of fraud in medical trials.
A physical therapist can leave you paralyzed after a single visit. you going to call them hacks and refuse to use them as well? and are you going to use contaminated medication just because the FDA says it’s safe? cause that’s the logic you are using.
Chiropractors are not doctors in any shape or form. There is no scientific data to backup the idea that popping random joints somehow cures illnesses. They’re nothing more than snake oil salesmen who have no clue WTF they’re actually doing.
correction: chiropractors are not backed by studies funded by people who own companies that require you to pop pills for long periods of time.
remember that. and stop burying your heads in the sand like republicans do. it’s a sad and pathetic look for you.
Found the unlicensed chiropractor. Get bent dude. Chiropractors have caused more pain and suffering to people than they have ever helped. They’re nothing more than glorified physical therapists.
Also its a pretty pathetic look for you that you have to make this political.
found the idiot who thinks that anyone supporting real facts is a fake.
taken straight from a medical journal funded by real medical research not RFK style research (aka not from the hacks that say that vaccines and pills created autism) for orthopedics: Chiropractic care is an evidence based effective option for spine and joint injuries.
the only hack Chiropractors O have found are a bunch of Americans. Every other country in the world recognizes both chiropractors and alternative medicine as valid options. but I wouldn’t expect a fake leftist like you who gets his facts from Fox News to know the difference between fact and propaganda.
The inventor of chiropractic practices literally said that a ghost taught it to him during a seance. Please educate yourself.
And the origin of doctors thought that draining the body of blood helped cure any and all illnesses. and the origin of most surgeries used today were developed by a Nazi who experimented on Jews.
educate yourself.
it’s sad how many idiots think that an origin of a particular activity decides whether or not you should use it.
eupraxiathis is my general impression too, the origins of the practice is kinda bunk and it’s probably not worth the risk for a lot of people.
that being said, there are individual chiros out there that do good work. The main person I go to for non-chiro bodywork, who really knows her shit, sees a chiro and highly credits them for her recovery from pretty severe spinal issues.
but generally speaking there’s other alternative therapies I’d recommend over seeing just any random chiro. Acupuncture can be a game changer, craniosacral work is great for some people too, and both of those are a lot less focused on manual adjustment, lowering the risk significantly.
Acupuncture can be a game changer, and is starting to become less “alternative” as some PTs offer “dry needling” now.
Why would you let someone who doesn’t believe in germ theory put needles in your body?
There is no evidence justifying acupuncture.