Just updated my iPad. It wanted me to take a photo of a credit card. I did not let it. It then told me I might not be able to access certain things. The future is fucking shit.
@joeress in all fairness this is the govt, not the fruity company. And yes, the future does not look rosy. It's rotten to the core.

@dch
Oh, the fruity company has alternatives. It just likes the extra data.

@joeress

@JorisMeys @dch @joeress Yeah, seems to me that you should be able to get a stamp from the local constabulary.

@yoasif @JorisMeys @dch @joeress

UK driver’s licence gives valid from date…not that I’m suggesting you give Apple or anyone else your driving licence details 🤷

Meanwhile, my wife keeps having the same nagware on her iPhone…she’s 74 FFS 🤦

@dch @joeress I'm thinking do I need all the bells and whistles?? Maybe I just need a basic computer with a basic operating system and just go outside more, like I used to pre 2005.
@Tubsta @dch @joeress I've been getting more and more offline in recent years, and honestly there are no drawbacks.
@dch @joeress Hopefully we can all push back on this hard.
@dch The fruity company has done this for years without any legal requirement whatsoever if you wanted for instance to set up Family Sharing.
@joeress
@menos @dch @joeress I don’t think that’s right — certainly it wasn’t the case when I set mine up. Family Sharing does implicitly require the organiser to register a credit card with Apple in order to purchase the content they will be sharing, but it never asked for ID. Also, it is possible to have an Apple Account with no payment method associated with it; it’s just not the default, and not entirely obvious at that, but the reason to have the account is to use the Store…
@riotnrrd @dch @joeress "It wanted me to take a photo of a credit card."—yes, that's what they've been doing. Or have me enter the CC data manually for that matter. It also mentions somewhere that's to confirm you're 18, as if that was somehow a requirement for having a family.
The Store is a BS justification; you can use both Google's and Apple's just fine without registering any means of payment as long as you're not trying to make any. Why would that suddenly be required for sharing stuff if you're not going to share paid stuff?
@menos @dch @joeress Hmm. I’m not in the UK, so that might be a legal requirement rather than an Apple thing. I have a (US) Apple account with no payment method on it that I use occasionally, but the whole point of Family Sharing for me is sharing paid apps & content, plus my main account has payment info on it anyway.
I don’t see the benefit to Apple of forcing this issue on a tiny minority, which is why I assume this is a government requirement rather than its own.
@riotnrrd @dch @joeress I just wanted to have an account for my son that I can set screen time limits for. Tried from Sri Lanka and Germany, neither of which had any such requirement, and it always wanted a CC. From Tanzania it keeps giving me the finger right away in typical Apple-speak "your account cannot be set up at this time" (but obviously we won't tell you why).
@menos @dch @joeress Ah, that makes sense — and the fact that it didn’t work is sadly an example of how poorly-thought-out that whole feature is. It’s still better than the Android equivalent, mind, but not by as much as it should be, and with all sorts of weird loopholes which your son will no doubt find and exploit, just as mine did!