How would it be thought good to continue the same use of animals?

https://lemmy.world/post/44674491

Vegans: Make a community for themselves

Meat-eaters: See block button. Choose to downvote/comment against it instead.

If posts about veganism are that offensive to you, just block and move on. If there were a com about meat-eating, that’s what I’d do with it.

Okay, all you wonderful, reasonable people, I’m ready for your downvotes!

Vegans: Make a community for themselves

Meat-eaters: See block button. Choose to downvote/comment against it instead.

Oh nooo, our echo chamber is being invaded by discussion!

Counterpoint: western society itself is a carnist echo chamber. We’re surrounded by your views. All we want is a little space online where we don’t have to be drowned in it.

Does anyone force you to eat meat? Are you offended by the mere idea of a t-bone steak?

If yes to the first: you’re an actual victim.

If yes to the second: you’re drowning yourself, nobody screams about a genuine carnivorous diet, but I’ve never seen a vegan who just sits down at a meal and doesn’t berate everyone at the table that eats meat.

Fuck this kind of victim-complex delusion.

I have shared meals with vegans who don’t do what you describe. Almost all of them in fact don’t do what you describe
Okay cool, we both have confirmation bias, just because you know some apples are good, doesn’t mean the whole batch is.

Just because you have never seen an apple doesnt mean they don’t exist is now appropriate.

I am not confirming anything other than I have a different experience.

I’m sharing an experience for the record that there are vegans who aren’t assholes the way you describe them to be as that is an incredibly popular stereotype. An unhelpful stereotype. It also includes that I have encountered your stated experience and not denied that it can be true

I thought it would be helpful for other people to hear that from a non vegan meat eater who has had plenty of healthy encounters with vegans and that just because someone is vegan it doesn’t make them unpleasant people the way you seemed to me to be arguing.

Ill be here arguing with people but begrudgingly welcomed while you will just get eventually ignored or banned completely and then you will contribute nothing to the discussion. Which is perhaps for the best then if that’s how it turns out. But maybe I’ll get banned. Either way It won’t really affect me much, but seems like you have a need to scream at people and that seems like it will cause you some personal problems.

Good luck

Wow, three whole paragraphs of ‘no u’ and ‘get banned’ instead of just reporting me? You sure you’re not the one that needs to scream at something? Get bent, and continue to be a prefect example of why people hate vegans as a whole.

I’m not a vegan. Currently brining some chicken breasts, so that will be an incredibly hard thing to do to be an example of why people "hate vegans as a whole. "

And I had nothing better to do and you keep responding. I’ll eventually get bored of you and then forget your existence. Why would I waste mods time reporting you when you are utterly forgettable and don’t cause me personally any problems. For what? Being unpleasant? That’s shit mods don’t need to deal with. If members of Vegan community want to report you I’ll gladly support their efforts though. I would even given em a hug, if they wanted one. Simply because I’m engaging with you doesn’t mean I actually care about your opinion. It simply amuses me to do so in this moment.

Since they’ve been reported for Rule 5 multiple times, I’ll note that I’ve left their comments up because they elegantly capture “this is why everyone hates vegans”, “how do you know someone’s vegan? they’ll tell you”, and the inane misconstrual that vegans, not the animals, are the victims vegans are trying to defend, and I don’t want the surrounding comments deprived of the whiny context they’re calling out. It’s always a balancing act of what to do with a vegan bingo caller. Sometimes it’s misconceptions from people arguing in good faith; sometimes it’s useless trolling; sometimes it’s whatever the hell this is.
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Does anyone force you to eat meat? If yes to the first: you’re an actual victim.

No mention of the actual victims of carnist assholery.

Also, you’ve never seen a vegan who just sits down and doesn’t berate everyone?

Yeah, no shit? It’s a self fulfilling prophecy; if someone doesn’t announce their veganism, then you’re not going to know they are vegan. Duh.

I’ve never seen a vegan who just sits down at a meal and doesn’t berate everyone at the table that eats meat.

(Emphasis mine)

Exactly. You didn’t see them. They were there, but you didn’t notice because they didn’t say anything.

Bullshit. You’re the one screaming.
Oh, we’re drowning.