ooli3Mean Height of 19yo Males in Select Countries, 1985-2019
squirrelConfused by the dashed line at first. It’s not an estimation of future heights, it just points to the country names…
egretsWhat is happening in China?
Not starving anymore
The famines were well over by the 90’s and 80’s but there’s also a difference in growth rate between “sufficient” and “abundant” diets.
Next comes an obesity crisis.
They managed to pull 1 billion people out of poverty and starvation, within 30 years.
Now they have a standard of living that’s almost exactly at the global average.
Now they have a standard of living that’s almost exactly at the global average.
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Captain AggravatedFor having copied our homework for 80 years?
copy theres so when they copy yours next time they will be “well this is familiar”
If they’d get off their asses and invent anything, we might. They plagiarized themselves into modernity. If it weren’t for the US they’d be spending the 21st century dying of smallpox by candlelight. Without them we’d recall fewer products for heavy metal contamination.
Who is to blame then - US companies who put production there to maximize profits, or the Chinese for taking that opportunity to get their country into the high tech era?
The US has exploited China for cheap labor for decades now. And they expected that to continue forever. Its old ways of thinking from the guys who were in the cold war, and the Chinese realized this is a giant opportunity to build up their entire country to be an economic power that will dominate the world. They have more than one billion people.
Like I said, one country is intelligent, the other one not.
qevlarr
Lvxferre [he/him]Improved health conditions. The start of the curve is around '91, and given this graph is for 19yos it’s probably some change around '72. I don’t know which change.
Mao died in '76. This wasn’t some great achievement, but the end of one of the most catastrophic policies any country has submitted its own population to.
Nah. Even if we eyeball the start of the curve, like I did, it clearly starts way before 1976+19 = 1995:
And upon further inspection even my eyeballed 1991 is a bit too late; 1969+19 = 1988 would make a better fit. It’s something that happened before the 70s.
Better diet, mostly.
Possible, but “better diet” on its own should apply to all five.
Another interesting bit in that pic is India. It was in a rather steep curve up from before '85 to ~'92[?]. Then it dropped, stagnated, started climbing back.
bdonvr
ThePuyMassive shoe lift plant in Shanghai.
Same thing as Japan a generation prior. Kids who get to eat their fill are taller than ones who grow up with food insecurity. It’s why my short grandpa who grew up poor during the depression and war demanded all the grandkids eat an extra helping as children and especially as teenagers.
Chinese people doing Chinese things
Every night they eat Chinese food
Every night’s a Friday night in China
fallaciousBasisGot pork?
Jeena
FauxPseudo In order to know that we would have to break down something like the India section into different castes, and see if there’s a height difference within the group overall group that correlates with the subgroups.
But I get where you’re coming from. When I saw this was in data is beautiful my instinct was a little bit of a shiver because it felt like this data is informative but data might be a little bit racist.
And I say that as a 188.8 cm tall person born way outside the selection period. This needs some Southern African indigenous people representation.
Data can never be racist.
The decisions which data to collect, how to interpret it and how to act on it can all be racist.
But data is just numbers.
The decisions which data to collect, how to interpret it and how to act on it can all be racist.
But data is just numbers.
Selection bias plays a strong role in deciding what is racist and what is it when it comes to data. P hacking and all that fun stuff too
v_krishnaI’m not surprised, I’ve long suspected the stereotype of east Asians being short is more related to food insecurity and lack of caloric abundance in childhood than genetics. Some Japanese people are short, but I’m tall in America and didn’t feel meaningfully taller in Japan. If anything I actually saw more women taller than me in Tokyo than New York.
Short men are literally less evolved.