MicroWave1d ago

More than 400 TSA officers have quit since shutdown began

https://lemmy.world/post/44607070

More than 400 TSA officers have quit since shutdown began - Lemmy.World

TSA employees have been working without pay during a partial shutdown of DHS over demands to reform immigration enforcement. More than 400 Transportation Security Administration workers have quit since a partial government shutdown that began on Feb. 14 left them working without pay, the Department of Homeland Security said. Funding was shut off to DHS over demands by Democrats for reforms at Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection following alleged abuses and the fatal shootings of two U.S. citizens by federal agents in Minneapolis earlier this year. There has also been a national callout rate of 10% at TSA on more than half the days of the last week, Lauren Bis, acting assistant secretary for public affairs at DHS, said Saturday in response to questions.

Show threadWataba1d ago

Gladly let the door kick them on the way out. Heard nothing but awful power tripping stories about them.

ICE is godawful and obviously worse. Both being gone would be great of course.

Show threadBarneyPiccolo1d ago

You hear the occasional story, but MILLIONS of people interact with TSA every day, and it goes perfectly smoothly. There is nothing like mind-numbing repetition to create a smooth flow. And when you do hear of a problem, it’s almost always started by the passenger.

TSA workers are just hard-working Americans, doing a job that has to be done. Keep your animosity aimed at those at the top who really deserve it.

And ICE Apes. They really do suck.

Show threadNocturnalMorning1d ago
Does it really have to be done though? The obnoxious security screenings don’t make anybody safer.
Show threadBarneyPiccolo1d ago

Airline hijackings dropped drastically after 9/11 due to enhanced security, moving from a relatively common occurrence to a rare event. While hundreds occurred globally between 1968 and 1972, and over 130 happened in the U.S. in one four-year period, there have been no successful hijackings in the U.S. since 9/11.

ourworldindata.org/…/airline-hijackings-once-rela…

Yes, it really has to be done. We live in a world of mass shootings nearly every day. The only reason it hasn’t happened in a plane is because of the post-9/11 security.

People don’t understand that TSA’s biggest impact isn’t in stopping weapons from coming onto planes in the airport. All of that is just theater, and we are unwilling players, like it or not. The impact is at home, when a lunatic who want to kill a lot of people decides to not do it on an airplane because he’ll probably never get through security, so he chooses a path of lesser resistance. Not great for that victim, but at least airport security eliminated against THEM.

Is it working? Who knows what’s on the minds of suicidal terrorists, but after a long period of many hijackings, culminating in the worst in history on 9/11, there have been no major hijacks in America since TSA and enhanced security were implemented in American airports.

Hard to argue with results like that.

Airline hijackings, once relatively common, are rare today

Airline hijackings are often considered a very visible and prominent form of modern terrorism, with the 9/11 attacks in the United States in 2001 being a well-known tragic example.

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Show threadhark19h ago
Hijackings went down because in the past the protocol was to let the hijacker do what they want since it just ended in a diverted plane with no one harmed. That doesn’t work anymore and it’s not because of the TSA.
Show threadBarneyPiccolo

I’m arguing with people who have never seen a hijacking, while I lived through all of them in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, AND 9/11, which many people here don’t even remember.

No, that’s not how hijackings work, and not why they decreased. They did not “let the hijackers do what they want,” and anyway, how would that discourage hijacking? If they were letting the hijackers do whatever they want, wouldn’t that ENCOURAGE hijackers?

They decreased because of steady improvement in security, until they had discouraged all but the most froggy terrorist, which is what we got on 9/11. Then they tightened up protocols even more, and we haven’t had any more hijackings.

You guys are arguing with me, but this isn’t me saying this, it is the assessment of literally everyone who has studied it. All of the people in this thread are trying to support their arguments with invented facts that conflict with historical truth.

Mar 24 at 1:22amWeb
Show threadhark19h ago

No, that’s not how hijackings work, and not why they decreased. They did not “let the hijackers do what they want,” and anyway, how would that discourage hijacking? If they were letting the hijackers do whatever they want, wouldn’t that ENCOURAGE hijackers?

Yes it was how it used to work, that’s why the planes would end up diverted. When that stopped being standard protocol, the hijackings reduced. You got it on that last sentence in that paragraph but for some reason think I’m arguing changing standard protocol to NOT allow hijackers to do their thing would encourage hijackers. You read my post backwards.