π° Holy shit Dan so petrol is basically free there, I bet nobody ever worries about not affording filling up their tank huh,
π¦ 25 miles per gallon is pretty normal here
π° oh
π¦ because of decades of basically-free petrol
π° oh.
@ifixcoinops 25MPG isn't just normal, that was considered good until fairly recently.
My backup vehicle barely gets 18, but that's why it's my backup vehicle.
Heck, when I had my Smart fortwo in 2010 or so I was averaging ~30 MPG, and that was remarkably efficient for any car in the US at the time.
It's so weird. I remember our '93 Geo Metro getting 48mpg. It was small and gutless but actually pleasant to drive, a great car. I suspect improvements in car fuel efficiency has been more than overbalanced by people preferentially buying SUVs and trucks that are under different rules.
Even our 2013 minivan gets about 25 on the highway. My 2019 Corolla gets 40+ on trips.
@venya @ifixcoinops I had intended to make that part of a larger thought, and then I didn't.
Prius C, nominally 50MPG.
It replaced a chevy cavalier, that barely got 20.
@ajroach42 @venya @ifixcoinops I had a car that did 24 mpg in 2005 and I decided to ditch it because it burned a lot.
It's 1.5-2.0β¬ per liter here though, and that's why all those "efficiency" regulations do nothing about the COΒ² in the atmosphere. People will burn what they can afford, just like induced demand in freeways.
@ajroach42 @venya @ifixcoinops
I didn't buy a Prius in 1999 because it got the same mileage as a diesel bug, which was also a lot lighter, perversely had a large cargo capacity (with the seats folded down) and included less ewaste. Also, I ran the bug on soybean oil.
Hybrids kind of seemed like a scam at the time, tbh.
I felt so virtuous in my fashionable car. Before I lived in a place with reasonable public transport and decided that virtually all private cars are a scam.