Dear england, greetings and here is my latest report from america, everybody is very angry right now because their petrol has jumped up to their equivalent of 79p a litre which is the most it's been by quite a lot

🐰 Holy shit Dan so petrol is basically free there, I bet nobody ever worries about not affording filling up their tank huh,

🦝 25 miles per gallon is pretty normal here

🐰 oh

🦝 because of decades of basically-free petrol

🐰 oh.

@ifixcoinops 25MPG isn't just normal, that was considered good until fairly recently.

My backup vehicle barely gets 18, but that's why it's my backup vehicle.

Heck, when I had my Smart fortwo in 2010 or so I was averaging ~30 MPG, and that was remarkably efficient for any car in the US at the time.

@ajroach42 @ifixcoinops 25 US MPG is ~30 MPG here, which isn't actually terribly uncommon. It's about what my Volvo does with it's big (by UK standards) 2.5l petrol engine

My little Peugeot will happily do 60 (uk) mpg, which as I understand it is high enough that you could drive coast to coast in the US for the cost of a big mac

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It's so weird. I remember our '93 Geo Metro getting 48mpg. It was small and gutless but actually pleasant to drive, a great car. I suspect improvements in car fuel efficiency has been more than overbalanced by people preferentially buying SUVs and trucks that are under different rules.

Even our 2013 minivan gets about 25 on the highway. My 2019 Corolla gets 40+ on trips.

@venya @ifixcoinops We had a Prius C for a while. It was nominally 50MPG.

@venya @ifixcoinops I had intended to make that part of a larger thought, and then I didn't.

Prius C, nominally 50MPG.

It replaced a chevy cavalier, that barely got 20.

@ajroach42 @venya @ifixcoinops I had a car that did 24 mpg in 2005 and I decided to ditch it because it burned a lot.

It's 1.5-2.0€ per liter here though, and that's why all those "efficiency" regulations do nothing about the COΒ² in the atmosphere. People will burn what they can afford, just like induced demand in freeways.

@ajroach42 My parents used to have a little Peugeot station wagon thay had similar fuel economy to a North America spec Smart car

In 1973

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