Discussing buying wi-fi chips at work to ship to customers

I remark we can use an Intel AX200/201

$coworker replies "no. Just the 200"

I explain the (minor) difference between the two

She fucking copy pasted the Google Slop Machine replying about CNVi instead of PCI-E and that it would cause issues

Of course if she'd read the extremely short Wikipedia article on CNVi she'd see it's supported on Intel chips since the 8th gen series in 2017

...We're using Intel CPUs from 2024

This shit just fucking *exhausts* me

I'm very much a "hardware guy". I am worthless at writing software. But I can (and do) bore people to tears with hardware minutiae all day. I've tripped over and summarily *forgotten* more hardware quirks than most normal people will ever have to reckon with

But now people who are not "hardware people" can get a plausible sounding answer to punt an email back over the fence about why not to do some trivial thing because they don't understand the ecosystem

Computers are an unfathomably BROAD topic. You aren't going to know everything. Not even close to it. Even if you're a "generalist" you're going to have pretty deep knowledge of specific things that are important to you

But that leaves you vulnerable and blind to the things you don't know but "sound correct" in a bubble

Y'know. Like the fucking slop machine is specifically *really good at doing*

Also for those playing at home. No, CNVi is not a problem (usually)

If you're on an 8th gen (2017 vintage) or newer Intel chip? It just works (TM)

If you're on AMD or ARM or something? Yeah then it won't work. It's an Intel chip communicating over an Intel protocol to an Intel CPU only

Why? Because Intel are a bunch of dipshits like that and thought "Centrino" needed to rise like an annoying phoenix

Do yourself a favor and just buy a Qualcomm or a Mediatek chip instead

(not Realtek though)

Also on that tangent. Seriously. Never buy Realtek anything. They've been absolute trash since the 1990's

Here's what a FreeBSD driver developer had to say about them back in the day

https://people.freebsd.org/~wpaul/RealTek/3.0/if_rl.c

@CursedSilicon Is it even worse than the Marvell in the Surface? Those things gave me such headaches I quit doing anything with enterprise wifi if they were part of the deployed user base.

@pauliehedron Marvell actually sold off all their Wi-Fi stuff to NXP many years ago!

...No idea if it's improved since then!

@CursedSilicon I just remember seeing the 100 lot price was like $3 when I was working with Cisco TAC on trying to get the damn things to roam. Surface was over a grand, I know a dollar more at scale is a lot, but MS could have afforded a slightly more premium chip and still kept margins healthy I suspect.