How did Slack go from being too minimal to be useful to being completely overwhelming without passing go?
Literally, it's just IRC for Startups. They could have just stuck to what features IRC has instead of adding issue tracking, bookmarks, and everything else.

@xgranade Oh yeah, I was weirded out when seeing someone use a channel's "overview" (seems like a wiki page) and "bookmarks" tabs for the first time.

Smells to me like more of the same "people will use chat apps as knowledge bases instead of going to therapy" problem that always raises my hackles about the way communities overuse discord. And I'm sure Slack loves enabling/encouraging further dependency on their product.

@kgf @xgranade "people will use chat apps as knowledge bases instead of going to therapy"

This specific observation motivated an expire-by-default behaviour I built into a thing I'm working on. Like, I literally made it impossible to use The Thing for permanent knowledge retention, even in principle, because stuff _goes away_ (really deleted, not soft-deleted) after a few weeks.

@xgranade I think #Slack has always been bad compared to #IRC and Competitiors like #Zulip
@xgranade may I suggest that you all get a meshtastic node and learn to use it for when the internet evacuates? You will not have Amazon, but you will be able to trade what medicines you find in the rubble regionally... And that will be a real difference.

@stalbaum I have five meshtastic nodes up and running for different purposes. That doesn't mean that other people hosting Slacks will use them.

Please, consider who you're replying to!

@xgranade yes we really all should know