Microsoft once tried to cut Windows 11 RAM usage, install size by 20%, now it’s trying again in 2026

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Microsoft once tried to cut Windows 11 RAM usage, install size by 20%, now it’s trying again in 2026 - Lemmy NZ

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They already know that the solution exists in their Windows for Legacy PCs but they don’t care about it and will waste their time and money going in a loop.

That is why they needed outside help to get Windows for Legacy PCs to hit their memory target

They have no choice but to do so in order to increase the user number of Windows 11. Since RAM prices are high, users will only be able to afford low-spec RAM once support for Windows 10 ends. Otherwise, they would not upgrade to Windows 11, but would instead switch to Linux or Mac, or stick with Windows 10.

It worked well with just 64MB of RAM

en.wikipedia.org/…/Windows_Fundamentals_for_Legac…

So they easily can get the memory footprint down to the floor

Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs - Wikipedia

A thin client? Sure, you can get it down that far if you don’t want to run anything but the remote desktop software.

they would not upgrade to Windows 11, but would instead switch to Linux or Mac

Absolute win.

Windows for Legacy PCs

Low-margin product with no feasible return over the costs it takes to build and maintain. Windows 11 meanwhile is the main advertising and cross-selling platform for Microsoft’s high-margin cloud and AI products. Little wonder they prefer one over the other.

Just tell your AI agents to reduce the RAM usage and install size by 20% and let them rip. How hard can it be?
Simple, NoPilot can just erase all your files. Binaries can’t take up memory of they can’t be loaded.
More like tell your users to only run services in the cloud and not to run anything on their own computers.
Instructions unclear, now Chrome Edge webview is running every cloud application as a separate electron process
Oh they’re getting there alright….

Windows 11 is not based on a single unified UI framework. Instead, it uses a mix of legacy Win32 components, UWP elements, modern WinUI layers, and web-based technologies like WebView2 and React.

I am reading this as MMC snap-ins and control panel. There is no other alternative to manage these settings outside of PowerShell.

Also, what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time? Sometimes I would like to be in Windows update, power settings, Ethernet settings, and printer settings all at once.

In an OS literally named "Windows " lol
Macrohard Window

Also, what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time?

Microsoft engineers were worried that people missed the joys of MS-DOS and having only one application running at once. Next up, will be the return of base memory versus expanded memory versus extended memory. This ends when they devolve Windows to prove Bill Gates right that 640kB should be enough memory for anyone.

I’ve got my autoexec.bat and config.sys ready to go.

what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time?

Microsoft’s army of macbook-using UI “designers” who have to justify their salary so they make up shit nobody wants

I hate how the settings app is taking over control panel entries to make them worse and show me the original control panel window after going down 3 levels because the stupid fucks can’t design UI for shit
Fighting with their shitty “new” UI trying to find the old Sound UI to fix an issue that their new UI doesn’t even have a toggle for really chapped my ass.

Like windows 2000 to XP or Vista to 7… 10 to 11

The eternal enshitification…

Apparently there’s a ton of CBT involved in doing anything in the new Settings app, so it makes sense to only bring over the things you absolutely have to and then send people to the old control panel for the rest.
They decided it because there are so many duplicate Settings pages controlling the same thing
Easily propagated with windows messaging apis.
Amateurs. On my personal pc, windows RAM usage is exactly 0.
Obvious course of events considering how the commodity PC market is essentially cut off from RAM supply for an indeterminate number of years with no respite in sight. Memory isn’t cheap anymore, and if they kept making Windows 11 as they used to it won’t be long before PCs in the market are simply left unable to run the OS at all.
There’s some very aggressive autocorrect programs that seem to be bloating all their current software. They should start with taking those out.

All at a time where I think I’m actually going to switch to Linux.

I just tried out an install on my laptop and boy does it work well even for gaming.

Windows has, nothing I actually need any more?

It feels really big to really leave Windows for good, but, I think it’s going to happen after a bit more testing of my Linux setup.

I told myself I’d give Win11 (using tools to uninstall all the bullshit/tracking) for 3-4 months before seriously considering linux. I made it 3 months, got tired of having to re-uninstall shit I don’t want every update and just flat out wiped the install and installed CachyOS. It’s been perfect, even new game releases like Death Stranding 2 worked out of the box, fuck windows.
Aww yeah love to hear these stories!

You say this as if you have been waiting for it?

You, and I both, know they are going to ask Copilot “What can we eliminate in the code base”.

This is why its been announced now. With all the tracking Microsoft has in W11, including being able to track usage to an email account for most, they will have a good idea who has binned windows and who hasn’t.

Its this volume of switching that has them worried enough to actually pretend to fix things. I say pretend as its fairly obvious what they need to remove to reduce the bloat on RAM but their business it tied to it now, like concrete over boots on a mafia snitch.

I have a back up SSD with windows on I swap out to play the very few games that still require it that I just can’t give up. But I don’t have the need to duel boot anymore. I just keep the SSD to scratch my itch
I’m curious what games do you use that still need windows?
Oohh, Bazzite?
Bazzite 🥰
Was it plug and play (relatively) for you? After benchmarking a few games I noticed Bazzite came with a 40% CPU performance reduction compared to w11.
Don’t use bazzite. Use Mint. Go for the easiest solution. You can get another drive and dual boot later.

If it worked out, the idle Windows 11 RAM usage would’ve been around 4.8GB

That’s still a lot

Considering 8GB systems are back in vogue, that’s a fuckload. More than half your ram just going to the computer existing.