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Ami AngelwingsDating in Quebec is going to be problematic in the future >_>
It's also not two unrelated men who have fathered hundreds of children through sperm donation, they're father and son
四@ami_angelwings Wait, what’s the limit etc? I genuinely have no clue (my genes dies with me). Is it a crime to donate too often? Is a clinic supposed to dispose of the material after n successful ones?
Not saying it’s great that there are 450/160 kids from two people. Just that I have zero clue on what the deal is.
@yon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_donation_laws_by_country
"There is no upper limit to the number of donor offspring in Canada, but sperm banks generally follow the same recommendations as in the US, i.e. a maximum of 25 offspring per population of 800,000.[9]"
@ami_angelwings So with 8-9 million in Quebec that’s ~250. Unless it’s a smaller area.
But seriously, that is genuinely more than I think is a good idea. This borders on eugenics and all that insanity.
(I’m not against helping people get pregnant etc, though adoption is preferable. But this isn’t very smart to me.)
It’s like a damn Anime soon.
@yon I assume they aren't talking all of Quebec, but the population center they're in
@ami_angelwings Still a crazy amount, not to mention the NYC Metro would mean 600+.
Plus the U.S. doesn’t check any of it, and it’s estimated that only 40% is reported at all. Yikes. So it’s a rule on a piece of paper nobody follows and nobody is meant to enforce. Crazy.
(I scrolled past to the U.S. and apparently Sweden has a max of 6, with a rule that you can get one sibling with a theoretical max of 12, but still a preferred max of 6 in total anyways. Plus everything is tracked etc. Feels more sensible.)
It’s giving me a bit of a The Boys from Brazil vibe.
@yon everybody's gonna be related to everybody soon
@ami_angelwings When you do the math it becomes inevitable pretty much. Plus we can track Y chromosomes (I never knew if you can track the X one the same way) which is interesting.
So silly stuff like “I found out I’m related to Charlemagne” is very silly. Because all of Europe is at this point.
What we don’t want is a Charles II of Spain situation.
Rosy@yon @ami_angelwings eh, adoption has lots of issues too. many adoptees want adoption to be banned altogether.
I do think people should be banned from fathering too many children this way, though I wonder... what if they are having tons of kids the "natural" way instead? is it fair or not fair to apply the same standards there? or what if a woman wants to give birth to like 10 kids or more?
@ami_angelwings @yon yeah that's the main issue. I guess people conceived this way are a type of adoptee and like adoptees they need to gain the legal right to know who their ancestors are (for health and cultural reasons)
@ami_angelwings @lalah @yon also there's a big difference between a person being free to have as many kids as they want to in their personal life, and a medical donor system with oversight (that people trust to be acting in the best interest of the patient) letting one person's dna be used to make hundreds and hundreds of related babies