I feel I'm coming up against #Apple and their tactic of forcing upgrades... my Mac now only unlocks using TouchID or my Watch about 40% of the time, forcing me to use my password like a heathen the rest of the time.

I won't go to #macos #Tahoe, glass sucks bad enough on my phone / tablet, I don't want it on my computer as well.

@Fishd ugh, know the feeling. I see you’re also into Linux. Do you see that as a viable way out of the Apple garden?

@mpblack Hoping so, though I'm struggling to find hardware that's even vaguely comparable to a MacBook. As a datapoint, I've been a Mac user for around 20 years.

I've an older Framework 13 at the moment and a GPD Win Max 2 which are both running linux... but they are ... somewhat unreliable. I think both devices are suffering from a lack of maturity in firmware, as they both have weird quirks that often require a shutdown and restart before devices become operational again. And the battery life is terribly disappointing by comparison.

@Fishd that sounds familiar: the tough thing about leaving Apple is that it all just works so well!
@Fishd Why would TouchID be affected half the time by not-updating? That makes zero sense, even for apple.

@arnan Good question, why indeed?

I've had this MacBook for around two years now, and it's always been fine. I've held it on Sonoma for the reasons I mentioned, and since the last Sonoma update, the TouchID (or unlock using Apple Watch connection) is extremely unreliable.

Could be coincidence... could be something else. I guarantee though that if I raised a ticket with Apple, I'd be told that I'd "have a better experience on the latest version of the OS" ... they have form for this.

In my experience, both the software quality and business practices of the company have deteriorated over the past few years. There have been some great features introduced, but also some whopping bugs and dubious practices.

To qualify my experience, I've been an Apple user for over 20 years now, and I've worked with them in a professional enterprise capacity since 2016 (as in, I was responsible for the enrolment, configuration and management of up to 3,000 macOS devices, including creating the environments to achieve this, at several global organisations).

@Fishd just clean the sensor and rescan your finger 😉

Of course they’ll recommend you update, every software maker does. Including me. It doesn’t mean Apple is sabotaging your finger.

@arnan Its not that the device isn't accepting my fingerprint, it is not asking for it.

I repeatedly get messages stating that Touch ID / Apple Watch unlock is not available and that I'll need to log in with a password.

I've tried a safe mode update and restart, I've re enrolled my finger. I've disabled it all, rebooted and set it all up again, I'm still seeing issues.

It's clearly software at fault, whether it's incompetence or malicious is open to debate but again, Apple has form for manipulating user behaviour by introducing friction.