I undestand the community reaction... but let's say, every service you use on internet asks for your age... also the government already knows your age, meta knows it as well (or all the people attacking #systemd closed their ig account?)

The os is personal, more than an internet service, so I feel the concern, but the age api is intended to be used by a software, as soon as we use trusted software we should be fine right?

#ageVerification

@axusss yes because kids only ever use approved applications and websites. And only good government approved applications exist on the internet. And no criminals that would target kids exist.

@NobodyElse47263 what's the point here? If you don't monitor your kid activity on internet there's no way you can control where your kid will put his personal data and in the hand of which corp.

The data instead can be used by a good sys admin to set up a parental control that would actually help you having control of your kid data

@axusss the point is that broadcasting an age signal to any application that wants it is not parental control. We already have restricted user accounts, we already know the vast majority of websites we don't want kids accessing, and we already have local network logging software. None of what is happening right now is about strengthening parental control. If it were the conversation would be about educating parents on internet safety and how to set up local restrictions that work (for most).

@NobodyElse47263 of course I understand that the topic is not about parental control and I know that who is pushing this (Meta) has no good intention indeed.

But I think the position of systemd mantainers is understandable in the same way, they want to comply to a law, avoiding systemd-based os (the majority of linux systems) to not be banned or be fined in Colorado. Imo it can be easily a regional change, so at least only the users in Colorado has to comply to this law

@NobodyElse47263 the change is very little and give the os decide to fill the field or not, I feel the decision just fair enough.

I use to go protest in the street when I feel that a law is awful, I don't spam a FOSS team about the moral choice I think they must have after they found already a good compromise.

Anyway I don't judge anyone that think systemd shouldn't push this change and I would be happy if they decide to not push it. It is just that it doesn't seem so harmful from my pov