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George MonbiotEverything we need to do to stop climate breakdown, we also need to do for national security. Energy saving, more renewables, more electricity storage and interconnectors, electrification of transport, heating, cooking and industrial processes, plant-based diets. We win on all fronts.
Adam van Sertima@georgemonbiot.bsky.social But what if we got healthier, more equitable, more just, more peaceful, more sustainable…for nothing? Will nobody think of the shareholders!?
DoomsdaysCW@georgemonbiot.bsky.social Even better, do something for the PLANET'S SECURITY! #NoBorders
GhostOnTheHalfShellDo you know what the cheapest thing would be? It would be the thing that would make every community quieter, healthier, and more economically vibrant.
Car free walkable communities.
You know what would save planet ecologies?
Local food production. Watershed restoration.
One TW of renewable energy consumes something like 16 times the materials as for oil and gas. Replacing it is ridiculous. Kill the planet cover it with toxic waste instead of reduce
Mike Anderson@GhostOnTheHalfShell you mean that manufacturing the ... wind turbines? solar panels? what? ... costs 16x as much as building the equivalent capacity in coal or gas fired power stations? Because the actual power generation costs *nothing* for wind and solar, whereas pumping oil out of the ground, refining it and shipping it around the World, doesn't come for free at all.
Why do people’s eyes glaze over:
Quieter, healthier, cheap cheaper much much cheaper much much cheaper in resources and money, safer and more economically vibrant for communities?
people cling to the two options offered: one side, big oil the other side is big mine.
let’s not do the simplest thing, because we absolutely need to destroy ecology all over the planet to get that mountain of resources to build our renewable green world. 🤔
@GhostOnTheHalfShell I will not choose "the simplest thing" based on numbers that sound like they came from Shell, no.
Then please, I asked you to consider not accepting the bunnies and butterfly framing of Rio Tinto.
Walkable cities and re-localized farming offered the potential of an eliminating 90% of all resource for transportation use in the first place.
A car free city recovers all the land used for roads and for parking. This saves an enormous amount of money as well as resources, and cars are as well.
Do the experiment next time you go to the store: push your car.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell I don't have a car, and I wonder why you would assume that I do.
There is little point in having a walkable city if you cannot transport food to the city.
I'm also wondering whether you will be using steel tools for your local food production. No machinery, I suppose.
We need energy and it cannot come from fossil fuels.
Plus, I don’t think you understand that big oil attacked walkable cities for the reason that they know it cuts down on their profit margins.
I think it’s funny how people want to believe that the global economy that is killing the planet, fueled by oil is going to stop killing the planet when that’s how they make their money.
No one will stop to consider just how large and destructive the globally economy is.
CassandraVertOverhauling agriculture to use fewer chemicals and more strategic planting to replenish the soil.
J$@georgemonbiot.bsky.social yeah, but having a future is bad for the economy(*) or smthng.
(*) ultrarich ppls umpteenth lux yacht, private jet, private island, survival estate etc