NazoMar 21
@sab38 @bazkie @nixCraft It looks like it has been confirmed that none of them can use systemd.
Show threadbazkie 👩🏼‍💻 bitplanes 🎵Mar 21
@nazokiyoubinbou @sab38 @nixCraft you mean like, license wise? or technically?
Show threadNazo

@bazkie @sab38 @nixCraft Funny thing is, I don't think anything specifically said exactly that. 😆

It has to be license-wise though. If someone really really wanted I'm sure they could make it work (but then who would want to? Systemd really seems to be universally hated!)

Mar 21 at 2:23pmWeb
Show threadbazkie 👩🏼‍💻 bitplanes 🎵Mar 21

@nazokiyoubinbou @sab38 @nixCraft well a few years back when it was a heated debate I remember it being pretty 50/50!

BUT I bet a lot of people at this point realize the anti systemd people were right and have jumped that sinking ship

Show threadNazoMar 21

@bazkie @sab38 @nixCraft Indeed.

My problem with it is it has forgotten its entire purpose. Systemd is just for handling stuff like init. Why does it even have its own DNS handling and things like that? I mean that's beyond mere bloat and straight up into territory of it trying to do things it shouldn't be doing wholly unrelated to its entire purpose... (Yes, it does DNS handling now. Though a lot of distros may be turning it off by default now. A lot of people using dnsmasq/pihole/etc have found out the hard way as they tried to figure out why the port was already bound before the service could start.)

Systemd should not even be aware what users there are, much less their age. That is not within its scope.

Show threadbazkie 👩🏼‍💻 bitplanes 🎵Mar 21
@nazokiyoubinbou @sab38 @nixCraft hear hear!! keep things simple, for every task there should be some utility. I don't like massive monoliths that do everything.