“I don’t think Stalin is someone to be looked up to”

“REEEEEEEEEE”

Stalin is a flawed figure, but goddamn did he kill some Nazis
Murdering your own people = “flawed”? He was a monster. Him helping to defeat a different monster doesn’t change that.

I see someone hasn’t done the reading.

Start with an easy one, work your way up to the 19th century theory.

Source: Welsh Underground Network share.google/hhOibo9wTsGbvooLi

What part of this book which both confirms and agrees there were many politically motivated murders/imprisonments (even if it argues they were fewer than other sources claim) makes Stalin not a monster? It’s arguing over the scale of the bad shit he did, not whether he did it or not. Holy shit.

Stalin is not a monster because monsters aren’t real.

It’s arguing over the scale of the bad shit he did, not whether he did it or not.

The scale of bad shit he did you got from lifelong exposure to anti-communist propaganda. This misinformation isn’t neutral. It has a clear goal, and billions of dollars behind it over the last 100+ years, because the capitalist class fears nothing more than communism, because to date it’s been the only successful alternative to capitalism.

Your own source said he murdered a ton of people. That’s a bad person, regardless of the economic system the country they lead used. Why is that such a hard thing to grasp?

If you want to promote communism, don’t use a goddamn mass murderer to market it.

Your own source said he murdered a ton of people.

I didn’t provide any sources.

If you want to promote communism, don’t use a goddamn mass murderer to market it.

Killing bad people doesn’t undo killing good people. This isn’t the argument you think it is.

Hitler killed Hitler, didn’t undo all the bad he did. And wasn’t he a capitalist? Stalin wasn’t a good person just because Hitler stabbed his own ally in the back, and the ussr started killing their former allies . Or are we pretending Stalin hadn’t allied with the nazis in the beginning of the war, here?

Quick question, what’s this?

Which of those other countries co-invaded a neighbor with the Nazis? Did you think that was some kind of gotcha?

Co-invaded is a strange way to say reclaimed Ukrainian and Lithuanian land after the Polish government fell.

Also Poland and the UK are almost entirely to blame for the fall of Czechoslovakia.

Reclaimed is a weird way to say : took land that hadn’t been theirs away from the people living there.

“After the Polish government fell” is a weird way to say, they invaded and helped destroy the government.

Another Whatabout? No one here praised the UK.

Reclaimed is a weird way to say : took land that hadn’t been theirs away from the people living there.

Reclaimed is precise. Poland seized Western Ukraine, Western Belarus, and Vilnius in 1921 while those nations were fighting for survival. The people there weren’t Polish, they were Ukrainian, Belarusian, Lithuanian. The Soviet Union didn’t “take from people living there”; it ended Polish occupation and reunited those populations with their Soviet republics.

“After the Polish government fell” is a weird way to say, they invaded and helped destroy the government.

No, you’re confused. The Polish state collapsed under the German blitz. The government fled to Romania on September 17 then the USSR crossed the border. The Red Army moved into a power vacuum to secure the border and protect Ukrainian/Belarusian civilians from the advancing Wehrmacht. They didn’t “help destroy” a government that had already abandoned its people.

Another Whatabout? No one here praised the UK.

The UK is literally in the image you’re replying to and asking about. Are you illiterate? Idiot. But what’s to be expected of someone who thinks Hitler was elected.