si2mev #antifa lover

@ralphcrutzen Importeren van contacten was een behoorlijke irritante exercitie. Importeren met een contact.vcf lukt niet. Uiteindelijk toch maar Google ad services geïnstalleerd en Google alle rechten gegeven (ehm, waarom had ik ook alweer voor @GrapheneOS gekozen?).

En hup al mijn contacten in mijn telefoon.

Dikke zucht. hoe nu GAS weer te de-installeren zonder contacten te verliezen?

#degoogle #graphene

Mar 21 at 10:36amWeb
Show threadsi2mev #antifa lover2d ago
@ralphcrutzen ook grappig. Meldingen van marktplaats werken ook met GAS niet. Ach ja, had ik maar een schaap moeten blijven. @GrapheneOS
Show threadKees AntiFa van Malssen2d ago
@si2mev @ralphcrutzen @GrapheneOS niet zo mekkeren
Show threadGrapheneOS2d ago
@si2mev @ralphcrutzen Their app likely depends on Google Play for push notififications which requires giving it Unrestricted battery mode. If you want to minimize your usage of Google Play, remove it in the Owner user and set up a dedicated work profile or Private Space for it. A work profile is a good option if you want to save Private Space for the main purpose of having private apps/data which remain at rest while using the phone. Google Play is still sandboxed in Owner on GrapheneOS though.
Show threadGrapheneOS2d ago
@si2mev @ralphcrutzen You aren't ruining GrapheneOS by using sandboxed Google Play in the Owner user. They're regular sandboxed apps including in the Owner user and you can restore it back to the default of only having the Network permission granted while retaining compatibility with nearly every Play Store app. Network and Unrestricted battery mode are all it needs to provide nearly all functionality apps need. We reroute location requests to Google Play to the OS location service by default.
Show threadGrapheneOS2d ago
@si2mev @ralphcrutzen It sounds like you do want to minimize usage of Google Play, so set up a dedicated profile for it. Work profile or Private Space is most convenient since they're nested but you could also use a secondary user. Private Space is essentially a nested secondary user. Work profiles are similar but have to be managed by an device policy management app. Shelter is an open source one for local management which many people use. Private Space + work profile gives 2 nested profiles.
Show threadFrans Veldman ⁱ ᵃᵐ ᵃⁿᵗⁱᶠᵃ🚩2d ago

Ik snap dit probleem niet zo. Ik heb ook GrapheneOS en na het configureren van DAVx5 had ik al mijn contacten, kalenders, etc.

Het beheren van contacten en kalenders is een standaard, dat hoeft niet perse bij Google, er zijn meerdere keuzemoglijkheden, en ik had de synchronisatie tussen Android, laptop, thunderbird, etc. eerst via Nextcloud en later via Baikal. En je geeft gewoon aan bij DAXx5 waar je je contacten en kalenders hebt ondergebracht en dan staan ze ineens ook op je phone.

Het scheelt misschien dat ik al langere tijd zo min mogelijk google spul gebruikte.

Als je nog helemaal in de Google infrastructuur zit dan heeft GrapheneOS wellicht niet zo veel nut.

Show threadsi2mev #antifa lover2d ago

@FransVeldman Dat ik het niet begrijp mag ook duidelijk zijn. ;)
Ik had mijn contacten geëxporteerd. Maar dat gaf geen oplossing. Heel vreemd maar vooral irritant.

@GrapheneOS @ralphcrutzen

Show threadFrans Veldman ⁱ ᵃᵐ ᵃⁿᵗⁱᶠᵃ🚩2d ago
Mja. Ik ben wel blij met GrapheneOS, alles werkt gewoon, zelfs alle kritische bankingapps enzo, ik heb er niets voor hoeven aan te passen.
Show threadRalph2d ago

@FransVeldman
Heb je Play Services wel geïnstalleerd? En zo ja, welke rechten heb je het gegeven?

@si2mev
Ik weet niet meer precies hoe ik mijn contacten heb geïmporteerd. Het zou misschien ook kunnen dat ze met Signal en WhatsApp zijn meegekomen (?)

Show threadsi2mev #antifa lover2d ago
@ralphcrutzen het is merkwaardig. Na installeren van Play Services en de juiste rechten kon ik importeren. Ik heb geen WhatsApp geïnstalleerd. Wel Signal, via Aurora dacht ik. @FransVeldman
Show threadGrapheneOS2d ago

@FransVeldman @si2mev @ralphcrutzen

Heavily using Google apps and services doesn't ruin using GrapheneOS. People still get major privacy and security benefits. Migrating away from Google apps and services along with other privacy invasive services can be done over the long term. If migrating away from it is a high priority goal with willingness to be dealing with it, then it's a good idea to start out with it in a dedicated work profile or Private Space.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116267529664234349

Show threadjjlinux | X unverified 😅2d ago
@si2mev @ralphcrutzen @GrapheneOS I've been on GrapheneOS for years, and unless things have changed since I moved everything out of Google and into self-hosting, getting my contacts and calendars into GrapheneOS was as easy as exporting it all from Google, and importing it into GrapheneOS. Only about 3 months later I deployed a radicale instance in my server to use davx5 on my phone and synchronize my tasks, calendars and contacts, but before that, I just kept the exports in my computer.
Show threadGrapheneOS2d ago

@si2mev @ralphcrutzen VCF export/import should work fine. It's possible the app you used for exporting did it in a format incompatible with AOSP Contacts but you can use a different app to export/import on both ends. There are also various apps you can use for end-to-end encryption contacts sync/backup.

You didn't need to give sandboxed Google Play a bunch of permissions to use their contacts sync but it's still far less invasive than regular privileged Google Play services even with those.

Show threadGrapheneOS2d ago
@si2mev @ralphcrutzen It doesn't matter at all that you did that if they already had your contacts anyway. You have to migrate to avoiding using them for sync if you want to avoid them having those anyway. Just get rid of it if you don't want it and make a dedicated work profile or Private Space for apps depending on Google Play if you want to keep it separate. You'll probably want apps depending on it but you don't need to give it any permissions beyond Network and it can be in another profile.