I've got asked so I'll post a clarification - you don't have to be affiliated with Node.js core or have contributions there to sign the petition. As long as you care about and use Node.js itself - your signature is very welcome!

https://github.com/indutny/no-slop-in-nodejs-core

#NoSlopInNodejsCore

@indutny

i lersonally doubt this is possible. slop will make it into node.

...but i'm pretty sure bare will stay high quality code

https://bare.pears.com 🙂

@serapath we don't have to draw the line at 0 LLM code precisely, but I think we have to draw it somewhere, though, because 19k LoC PR is not what I want to see in Node.js.

Please sign the petition! :-)

@indutny

why not switch to bare? 🤷‍♀️

@serapath @indutny I don't think it's a particularly healthy approach to switch to the next best/uprising thing. Especially when it's a socio-technical matter thing that the alternative solutions will inevitably run into discussing as well.

I'd put it like this: Let's fight first. We can still boycott and switch to another solution later.

@f09fa681 @indutny

no, there is a long history going back to the inception of nodejs.

node was forked early on and the fork was called `iojs`, even isaac schlueter, is on record saying he wished nodejs or node was cut in half and just called `no`, meaning it should be ultra minimal.

the folks who started bare are nodejs core contributors and around since inception and bare is LITERALLY what nodejs was meant to be before it was taken over by big tech as main sponsors and main openjs members

@f09fa681 @indutny

bare is NOT "the next best thing" and isnt venture capitalist sponsored like deno or bun.

why? ...because when lots of ppl build friends and learn the stack of a language and ecosystem, its hard to switch - you trained your brain and you lose a lot if you quit, thus later enshittification is hard to escape.

bare is different.
its ultra minimal and empowers userland.