Mongostein“I don’t think Stalin is someone to be looked up to”
“REEEEEEEEEE”
Murdering your own people = “flawed”? He was a monster. Him helping to defeat a different monster doesn’t change that.
See this is what we’re talking about, you correctly see through some lazy capitalist mythologies (such as anarchists being mindless drug-addled destruction junkies with no political goals other than chaos) but fail to see through others, such as “Stalin was The Guy in charge of the USSR and he killed eighty bazillion people through nonspecific means, for no reason other than he was The Joker”.
Non specific means? Even if you ignore the orchestrated famine, He enacted paranoid political purges of engineers, scientists, academics, etc. Those are direct murders of people he didn’t like. And you’re over here like: he’s misunderstood. And your defense is: nuh uh/Whataboutism.
At no point did I defend capitalism. I said Stalin was a monster. And that’s an indisputable fact.
orchestrated famine
Utterly incorrect, as even “cold warrior” historians like Robert Conquest qete forced to attest after the opening of the Soviet archives. And again, no motivation. Just “evil”.
He enacted paranoid political purges of engineers, scientists, academics, etc
Getting rid of monarchist figurehead is Good, Actually. And again: “He”. As if the Soviet union was ruled by one guy. An utterly historically illiterate take, you are simply repeating lazy mythology.
people he didn’t like
This is like when fascists say "you can’t just call people you disagree with nazis. Who were these people the Soviet union didn’t like? Might it have something to do with the genocide that was perpetrated on them, and the massive US invasion perpetrated before that? The fact that you cannot be specific at all is a dead giveaway that you’re just regurgitating childlike mythology, kn the level of “Hamas hates Jews”.
And your defense is: nuh uh/Whataboutism.
Oh no, this is not a defense. History has shown that the actions of the Soviet union need very little defending. This is an attack on your evangelical-level incuriosity and refusal to engage with anything that challenges your mythology.
At no point did I defend capitalism
You did. You do. You pretend to oppose everyone while uncritically swallowing the most ridiculous capitalist propaganda about the people they fear. In 70 years there will be another version of you talking about Mandani’s communist genocide of new yorkers.
Stalin was a monster. And that’s an indisputable fact.
This is you wishcasting. You wish for it to be an indisputable fact, because you’ve built so much of your identity around it but fundamentally lack the knowledge to back it up. That’s why you fall back on religious truisms. In the end, your only defense for your willful ignorance is “it is known”: the chorus of the scared and incurious throughout history.
davelI said Stalin was a monster. And that’s an indisputable fact.
Hell yeah dude, you’re 12
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