Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸Mar 20

Here's the uncomfortable part. NATO is cowardly and inept. If that was not true, Ukraine would not still be trying to expel Russia from its territory.

But of course, that's not the context here, and telling your 'friends' they are cowards even when they did in fact come to your aid and spilled blood the one time you asked, is not how you keep those friends.

But #TheAmericanFascist is not interested in friendship. He only wants loyalty and fealty. He’s not getting it. On that, NATO is right.

#NATO #Canada #USA #IranUSAIsraelWar #Ukraine #RussiaUkraineWar

Show threadAmgineMar 20

@chris

Actually, I disagree with the first statements.

It is not cowardly to avoid escalation. Often it is the opposite of cowardice. I believe M Obama, who negotiated with Russia when they first invaded Ukraine, made a grave error in acknowledging Russia's critical military infrastructure at Sevastopol, Sarych, etc. That was the USA negotiating, not NATO.

It is still the USA negotiating, not NATO.

If cowardice has been displayed, it is by the USA.

Show threadEpistomaiMar 20
@Amgine @chris 2 things: you can't negotiate with Putin after the invasion, maybe with another Russians. The second, nobody wants escalation, not even Putin. He wants the territory and obedience, but he's not stupid like Kim or Trump to convert into a nuclear wasteland
Show threadAmgineMar 20

@epistomai @chris

He wants the territory because?

Because it is the world's bread basket, and the ABCDs* support him.

Why the hell we let these multinational corporations collaborate with Putin is beyond me. But they are the reason the war continues. The #Oligarchs.

* Archer-Daniels-Midland, Bunge, Cargill, & Louis Dreyfus corporations: see #Wikipedia disambig: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABCD#Other_uses_in_science_and_technology

ABCD - Wikipedia

Show threadEpistomaiMar 20
@Amgine @chris whatever the reason, you don't invade a country blatantly. Same with Venezuela, Cuba, Iran
Show threadChris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸Mar 20
@epistomai @Amgine we “believed” that once in Kuwait…
Show threadEpistomaiMar 20
@chris @Amgine before internet and the information era was easy for disinformation, now Trump is pushing for a Russian/North Korean/Orwellian style of regime
Show threadEpistomaiMar 20
@chris @Amgine but that is personally, not everyone looks like a tin foil guy and those who search are tinfoil hat people. Anyway, information is filtered, and today is worst than ever, but still we have tool's to look, before was very hard
Show threadAmgineMar 20

@epistomai @chris

Yes, I do kwym! I used to run a few things with Fido Net, pre-internet. You can still find a few clues about me and Rêveware in odd spots.

I do suggest you take a look at OONI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OONI

You will likely be surprised by what its regular tests - mapping what people all over the world are allowed to find on the internet - discover about your personal access. Some of what you cannot see is controlled by your ISP, some by your government.

OONI - Wikipedia

Show threadEpistomai
@Amgine @chris I moved from 🇲🇽 to 🇨🇦 and as I already knew it is ip locked/filtered by isp/gov, I can't see all content from outside Canada. I don't use VPN, since I never trusted even before it was known to everyone, I use TOR and other onion tools. I don't remember what other stuff did in the 90s to find filtered information from other countries, tbh
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