Why after avoiding Apple for decades, I'm buying the new Apple Neo

I have been almost entirely in the #Google ecosystem since the dawn of Google, and in fact bought my first Android phone the first day the first Android phone (the venerable G1 with the slide-out keyboard, which I still have and still boots, though with an open source OS version) became available. All my smartphones since then have been Android -- I don't expect that to change.

Other than the single purchase of a tiny iPod Nano long ago, I have avoided #Apple hardware due (among other things) to its typically outrageous pricing and lack of competition in the hardware manufacturing space.

In fact, I made an anti-Apple decision long, long ago, when I chose to work with the 8080/Z80 CPU microcomputers rather than the 68000 series CPUs that Apple chose for its early Macintosh and Lisa lines.

Of course my main work over the decades has been with UNIX/Linux, my servers are and have always run these, and my primary desktops are Linux as well. There are also a number of Chromebooks, Android tablets, Android/Google based TV devices, and some Windows systems for compatibility with needed Windows apps. There more stuff of course but you get the idea.

Along the way I've frequently been asked about issues related specifically to Apple iOS and MACs, and I have simply replied that I don't have expertise with those.

So I've long been aware of this gap, but couldn't justify the expense of any Apple hardware simply for the purpose of filling that gap.

Two events have changed this a bit. First it's clear that both Google and Apple have been moving with notable speed ever farther into the Dark Side, with their billionaire CEOs embracing fascist Trump and seemingly everything evil that he represents.

This creates an interesting dynamic, if one feels that purely open source systems cannot completely fulfill one's required hardware and software needs. In essence, the question becomes is it better to deal mainly with a single Evil Big Tech firm, or split your needs in some respects across two of them (or three, if we include Windows requirements and Microsoft).

For now I view the "split" as the most practical choice -- for me, anyway -- and the new Apple #Neo (whose macOS runs a largely usable UNIX under the hood) represents what seems to be the most cost effective current path to this (it does appear to be a disruptive design in terms of capabilities and pricing, that may give Google's Chromebooks a run for their money, especially in the educational space).

Anyway, just thought I'd mention all this -- more than you wanted to know, of course.

Best,

L

@lauren

One mildly shocking thing when going though the Welcome/setup process is you can actually say no to things; create a standard local user account, and turn off most everything right off the bat, and if you decide you want to turn stuff on later you can.

I did this recently with a Mac Mini I got for ham radio. It has no ties into Apple eco-system, just a local account. Homebrew or just downloading directly any other software I need.

I even installed UTM to run a Windows 11 ARM vm for the one win app for my Kenwood radio. Then I disabled the network adapter after I got it setup, and it just uses a USB-serial adapter to control the radio DB9 serial port, then the Mac mini uses a separate USB connection to also control it as well. Works a great without having to do any Wine hassle or virtual serial port splitting...

@pauliehedron I was looking at some of the options to run specific Windows apps. There are a few I'd like to put on there if the storage overhead isn't too high (noting it will have 512G minus system, etc.). Part of the reason I ordered the unit with the 512 rather than 256G memory.

@lauren If the win apps are .net, running a windows 11 arm VM is really smooth with UTM. If you need graphics performance, Parallels seems to be the goto.

I also use Crossover on my M1 Studio for the couple games where I wanted a commercial version of Wine, though now that Star Wars the Old Republic has a native Mac launcher, I haven't needed it as much.

@pauliehedron Is the Parallels base version (one time fee, not subscription) actually useful?

@lauren I haven't owned in a while (last version I bought was 11), but I recall they have a pay per version or annual subscription options.

I found UTM fits my needs for VMs. https://github.com/utmapp/UTM

I don't have a need for containers on Mac (I use https://distrobox.it on Linux extensively though!) but I do want to try out this sometime, the demos were pretty slick, without the overhead of docker: https://github.com/apple/container

Edit: I also forgot that UTM also supports the native Apple virtualization framework, so can virtualize MacOS as well natively so your potential experiments in the Eco-system can be separate from your regular host. Just a wonderful piece of kit. 

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