RaeAm I allowed to share this story?
"police informed him that people who shared a photo of the banner on social media could also be in breach of the prohibited expression laws."
⏚ Antoine Chambert-Loir@rae Would it be legal to say either of
“from the sea to the river”,
“in the space delimited by the river and the sea”,
“from the Jordan river to the Meditarranean Sea” ?
“from the sea to the river”,
“in the space delimited by the river and the sea”,
“from the Jordan river to the Meditarranean Sea” ?
Ray McCarthy@antoinechambertloir @rae
The original phrase was invented by people that wanted to erase Israel and kill all the Jewish people in the Middle East who didn't leave (like to Brooklyn).
Before the British in 1917 the Bedouin, Muslims, Christians, Druse, Samaritans and Jews had all lived there, which was in the Syrian administrative area of the Ottoman Empire. Hence Syria claims Lebanon, Gaza, West Bank, Jordan and Israel as part of Syria. Palestine was invented by the Romans.
The original phrase was invented by people that wanted to erase Israel and kill all the Jewish people in the Middle East who didn't leave (like to Brooklyn).
Before the British in 1917 the Bedouin, Muslims, Christians, Druse, Samaritans and Jews had all lived there, which was in the Syrian administrative area of the Ottoman Empire. Hence Syria claims Lebanon, Gaza, West Bank, Jordan and Israel as part of Syria. Palestine was invented by the Romans.
hiphopheaven@raymaccarthy @antoinechambertloir @rae the original phrase was a call for a one state solution . The only side who is in the process of exterminating the other is Israel
@hiphopheaven @antoinechambertloir @rae
Currently.
Netanyahu is a criminal.
The Sykes-Picot agreement and then the Nazis changed the pre-WWI status quo.
Hamas & Hezbollah are 100% dedicated, and always have been, to the destruction of Israel & Jewish people.
In 1948 all the neighbouring Arab countries rejected UN proposals and called for the destruction of Israel and killing of Jews. PLO used to publicly have the same view as Hamas.
Yes, Jews & Israel have also done terrible things,
@raymaccarthy @antoinechambertloir @rae jews only had 9% of the land and it was not concentrated in the same area. That means israel couldn't be created without ethrnic cleansing. Even herzl advocated for displacing arabs. A one state solution with equal rights would have saved both jewish and arab lives.
after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine - ben gurrion
Vinteuil (Le Temps Perdu)@hiphopheaven @raymaccarthy @antoinechambertloir @rae Sure, but no one wanted equal rights back then. Moreover, one only needs to look at the other countries in the region during the 20th century. After independence, equal rights were not particularly established, and Jews continued to face structural discriminatio
even in our current democracies discrimination exists. It is not a good excuse for Zionists who majority of them was European recent immigrants to force a state on people by mass displacing the local population. it is antisemitic two thing the two semetic group can't live together
> after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine - Ben Gurion
@hiphopheaven "Recent immigrants" who fled Hitler in the 1930s. That’s who made up the majority of Jews in the territory by 1947. Would you have preferred they died in the gas chambers?
@hiphopheaven
You’re also mistaken. ‘Semitic’ refers to languages, not peoples. It was 19th-century racists who invented the idea of ‘Semitic peoples.’ In the 1930s, Arab ambassadors even asked the Nazis if they were targeted by ‘antisemitism’, and the Nazis explicitly said no. (Source: "Nazi Propaganda for the Arab World", Jeffrey Herf, 2009.) So stop twisting the term: antisemitism has always meant structural discrimination against Jews—and only Jews. Arabophobia and Islamophobia exist separately; there’s no reason to co-opt the term except to delegitimize Jews. And that…
You’re also mistaken. ‘Semitic’ refers to languages, not peoples. It was 19th-century racists who invented the idea of ‘Semitic peoples.’ In the 1930s, Arab ambassadors even asked the Nazis if they were targeted by ‘antisemitism’, and the Nazis explicitly said no. (Source: "Nazi Propaganda for the Arab World", Jeffrey Herf, 2009.) So stop twisting the term: antisemitism has always meant structural discrimination against Jews—and only Jews. Arabophobia and Islamophobia exist separately; there’s no reason to co-opt the term except to delegitimize Jews. And that…
@vinteuil_ltp yes i know it refer to a group of language therefore both Palestinians and israelis are semetic by language . When arab took control of the land there was no major progrom that means many ethnically jews was simply converted to Israel and was Arabized. Both people are descendent of the Cananites
Would you have preferred they died in the gas chambers?
No I preferred that they lived in peace with Palestinians instead of ethnically cleansing Palestinians to create a state. Palestinians has nothing to do with Hitler and in fact fought along the allies against the axis. It is so disgusting that you want to make me look like I support genociding jews when israel is the one right now genociding palestinians and talking about greater Israel
@hiphopheaven I totally recognize Israel is genociding Palestinians right now. But you totally idealize history. There were pogroms in Palestine too. Peace needs to be created, and it supposes to work for that.
@vinteuil_ltp i am not idolizing the history Arab definitely did wrong things and war crimes but it doesn't change the fact that Israel is the settler colonial power who want to expend in country they signed a peace deal with today. Peace won't happen until Israel recognize that occupation will only cause more violence. PA recognize israel and stopped attacking it so what should happen is for israel to slowly remove the colonies in the west bank and let PA deal with Hamas if it don't surrender
@hiphopheaven We totally agree on that