All together now: fuck systemd

First to tongue the boot when it comes to this age verification shit I see.

Revert "userdb: add birthDate field to JSON user records (#40954)" by paramazo · Pull Request #41179 · systemd/systemd

This reverts commit acb6624, reversing changes made to ba1caf0. Revert "userdb: add birthDate field to JSON user records (#40954)" After extensive community discussion, legal review and c...

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It's an optional field in the userdb JSON object. It's not a policy engine, not an API for apps. We just define the field, so that it's standardized iff people want to store the date there, but it's entirely optional.

Lie by omission here. Clearly the reason for this being added is AV. Imagine it was a "sexualOrientation or "ethnicBackground" field that just got added because $government suddenly made that sort of thing a hot topic... "oh it's just part of the JSON schema, it's not up to us to decide how people use those fields! Fuck off. systemd should have no knowledge of any of that. It's irrelevant to the operation of the system.

Playing into the hands of fascists and he knows it and doesn't want it discussed or highlighted.

I also hate project owners and maintainers that close down discussion like this full-stop. It's not like it's taking place in your front room, Lennart. If people want to discuss it and decide whether they agree or not, let them.
As if you needed more reasons.

@ret

And while I don’t want to anthropomorphize an LLM, he didn’t even say please.

I’m not sure that he should, but like…I’m the kind of person who feels bad for NPCs in video games so. And being polite even when it literally doesn’t matter still helps you practice being polite.

Plus saying please costs the LLM providers more money.

@ret I joked about this yesterday, but doesn't this change technically mean that any "you must provide data xy" law now needs to get merged into systemd?
Now what if another state, nation or whatever decides you must not collect that data?
@ret Unless systemd is a company located in cali I really don't get why this specific law has to be complied with.
@Eichi @ret it's literally just covering their asses, they're making it look like compliance when it isn't. That's good. The crash out here is making people look silly, tbh. There are real problems to be upset about.
@spork @Eichi @ret "Stop over-reacting" is a favorite dismissal of the fascist at heart.
@SimonIGroove @Eichi @ret Ah, yes, I'm a fascist because I think people should focus their attention on the bad laws themselves instead of a user-editable date field in an init system that was immediately reverted.
@SimonIGroove @spork @Eichi @ret I agree it smells bad but it is easily faked
@ret The road into surveillance and dictatorship is littered with engineers who just added an optional feature without thinking about the consequences and taking a stand. He could have just said "not in my systemd".
userdb: remove birthDate field from user records to preserve AI-readiness and privacy-by-design guarantees 🚀 by mkljczk · Pull Request #41247 · systemd/systemd

This reverts commit acb6624, reversing changes made to ba1caf0. Following extensive community deliberation 🤝, independent legal review ⚖️, and a collaborative privacy impact assessment across multi...

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@mkljczk wow they were quick to shut that one down...
@mkljczk @ret that took three minutes lmao they’re salty