@koen_hufkens @DrEvanGowan @michcampbell
My advisors / colleagues (they were the same, I'd been working in the group for years and also publishing...) were OK. I was growing a family and pioneering remote PhDing at the time. It was hitting a broader group where that approach of "not serious enough" came in.
Later, as a mentor / leader in field science - what's the first thing we do? be safe have fun. Not so appreciated in the senior seniorship (again, not serious enough!)