Andrei Kucharavy4d ago
tante

RE: https://wandering.shop/@xgranade/116257004378454654

This is garbage. `uv` is the best tool for the job in the Python ecosystem but it being developed and maintained by a startup (with no path to sustainable funding) this was basically inevitable.

People underestimate the bad position open source is in currently and how much of that space is annexed

Mar 19 at 5:54pmWeb
Show threadAzure is tired of lying in bed4d ago
@tante nooooooo, not uv 😢
Show threadSharp Cheddar Goblin4d ago
@tante Python is cooked. Way too many slopcode enthusiasts in that space. Guess I'll find a new scripting language to try to enjoy coding in again. Lua?
Show threadjeremiah4d ago
@SharpCheddarGoblin Lua is on my list. Uv made Python fun for me but at what cost.
Show threadtusharhero4d ago
@SharpCheddarGoblin Guile :)
Show threadSharp Cheddar Goblin4d ago
@tusharhero 👀
Show threadSharp Cheddar Goblin4d ago
@tusharhero Actually since you bring that up, it reminds me that back in college I had a lot of fun with lisp and smalltalk, and I really ought to revisit those for fun again. This should be fun, right? This used to be fun.
Show threadtusharhero4d ago
@SharpCheddarGoblin it *is* fun.
Show threadCy21h ago
I programmed in python for a long time, but the python/C interface hid so many bugs. Mysterious segfaults with no way to tell on either side what was wrong. Did a brief stint with Lua but it's much the same thing, and has no good debugger to boot. D was great, until there was a segfault in garbage collection and all context for the segfaulting thing had already been discarded. Tried Go for a bit, but really I was looking for a language that was fast to compile and run, with as little inscrutable (i.e. undebuggable) "magic" as possible. (And yes python gets compiled.) So finally I found the language that was fastest to compile than any other language, and also fast to run, and didn't have a lot of bullshit magic going on.

...yeah, I program in C these days. #C #programming

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Show threadSharp Cheddar Goblin21h ago
@cy @tante I started in C, I'll probably end in C. At least there is some symmetry in my life, I guess.
Show threadLars Marowsky-Brée 😷4d ago
@tante It's still maintained by a startup with no path to sustainable funding.
Show threadtante4d ago
@larsmb true
Show threadalanxoc34d ago
@tante Oh my. We use `bun` and `uv` at my workplace. It is so much better than pip+venv. They are probably mirroring Anthropic's move on `bun`.
Show threadaoanla4d ago
@alanxoc3 @tante we still have poetry, at least?
Show threadmit_scharf4d ago
@tante Phuh zum Glück bin ich so ein Late-adopter. Stand bis jetzt auf meiner Liste für: „eigentlich sollte ich mir das reinziehen das klingt cool“. Schade Schokolade.
Show threadRoger Karis4d ago
@tante It will interesting to see if and how this will influence their values, in the short and long run: https://astral-sh.notion.site/Astral-s-Values-0ed6a642bcc84e91af6836b2373572f5
Astral’s Values | Notion

Values are the fundamental beliefs that guide us, motivate us, and drive our actions… [Good company values] have an opinion that you can understand easily and check against.

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