AI6YR BenI see the whole "dancing robot" thing is going great in Silicon Valley.
Full video... surprised the thing did not break her arms, actually. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/weQSGxUGTDI
I think this is one of the "fully automated" Chinese food chains, there is one in Glendale, California. Basically, the robots microwave or cook the food, and some human has to bring it to you. Basically, they're attempting to decouple the skill/labor required for cooking food from humans, making the humans just an inconvenient cog you can pay minimum wage. I ran into one with my dad when he was here (quick food stop) and I was quite disturbed by the whole concept. If they could dispense with the humans (who are expensive and unreliable), they would.
Ah, yes... this chain
AI6YR Ben (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image The robot apocalypse is nigh... Saw this restaurant sign: "grand opening. robots cook it. humans crave it." #robots #food #automation #jobs
Okay, these people are sucking down the hype Koolaid. 🙄
We're WAY more likely to be in "Mad Max" barter town mode by 2060 than 3 billion helpful humanoid robots, buddy.
Paul_IPv6ninny-bots are way more likely than nanobots, with the purging of programming expertise in favor of LLM vibe coding too.
Not a Spring Onion
GhostOnTheHalfShellRE: https://masto.ai/@GhostOnTheHalfShell/116257641445511369
And they keep saying this as their’s truly (trump) and all the tech guys are 100% behind bombing the Middle East and all of its oil and natural gas resources and processing into oblivion.
Nobody’s bothered to tell them I guess what that would mean for their data center energy costs as well as all the resources needed to build them in the first place.
They think they’re going to make lots of money off of economic chaos, sure if it’s within reason
Nazo@GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr Come to think of it, didn't Musk try to power one of his data centers with jet turbines like *right* before all this started?
How is he even going to keep that running without spending some of his money instead of someone else's?
@nazokiyoubinbou @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr
The Memphis site has been running off of local generators, which have been polluting the the surrounding neighborhoods. I hadn’t heard of. He’d moved on even more insane sources, but he’s the king of that kind of bullshit.
As Israel, the US and Iran continue to obliterate oil fields and refineries ports, all of AI, and in fact a lot of tech every day centers, are going to feel the pinch.
The rest of us are going to as well.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr Basically this: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/musks-ai-power-plant-generates-sound-fury-mississippi-rcna258594
Some kind of really high powered turbines. They must run on a fuel that surely requires the refinement of oil somewhere in the process, so it's surely going to go up. And it can't have been cheap even to begin with...
It's going to be harder and harder to keep using someone else's money to pay for all that I would imagine. (But billionaires would rather die than spend their own money on something.)
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr Oops. It says methane gas.
No clue if that would be affected or not then.
@nazokiyoubinbou @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr
Yeah, the scented one brought those in at least last year, and it’s been destroying the lives of the people near the data center.
This is not unique to this particular data center, because other noise generated by them in general as well as the utility costs or fucking up people where these things have been set up
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr I am forced to admit I was really kind of hoping that they would all see massive price hikes on continuing to power them. Sadly, they probably won't feel the bite if they're using stuff like methane gas.
Too bad that pollutes even worse...
@nazokiyoubinbou @GhostOnTheHalfShell @ai6yr
expect to see a push for small nuclear reactors again...
@paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr
Yeah.. let’s remember which part of the world manufactures them probably or where are you gonna get all the componentry built?
It’s gonna be a while before any of those come online. I will suspect that somebody on grandstand with a demo install installation.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr
oh, i don't think it's going to be functional. just another distraction. the horse worming covid cure of data center power problems...
@ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou
Blow me over with a feather
@nazokiyoubinbou @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr
This is going to get very interesting as summer and all of its incredibly high heat index or just plain old really high heat will settle in over the next few months.
Today isn’t too bad on the West Coast, but oh my goodness.
And in all of this crisis, we’re on our own.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr
this summer is going to be brutal. many parts of the country are already getting into temps you'd normally not see until Jul/Aug. all sorts of places have over stressed power grids (TX...) even before more data centers start sucking power/water. throw in stagflation, higher fuel costs, summer storm season, FEMA gutted. that's a lot of stressors...
@paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr
Tell me about it, I’m on the West Coast and like three days ago, it was darn hot, but who knows how the summer is going to play out. I’m perfectly happy to soak in a cold shower to cool off. Maybe I’ll start swimming in the bay. I don’t know.
Ciggy Bringer of Smoke@GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr
Yeah, I think out our way especially up in the PNW, we're gonna have hot days for sure, but the larger problem is the kindling box of forestry that's dry as fuck and not enjoying much if any snowpack. So another order of 400 N95s it is then.
@ciggysmokebringer @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr
Well, yeah, California California of all places is not in the middle of a drought anymore, but these huge deluges of water, prompt, vigorous vegetation, and a few months later, the summer heat rolls in and the wildfires kick in.
Ecology can adapt to this, but the adaptation what the ecologies will look like after several intensive rounds of fires will be transformed.
@ciggysmokebringer @GhostOnTheHalfShell @nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr
yeah... have 2 spare cases of n95s. same here in CO. already fire dangers, very early warm temps causing early blooming, lack of snow this winter. not fun.
already done/helped two evacs due to fires in town/city areas. was hoping not to see a 3rd.
@paul_ipv6 @GhostOnTheHalfShell @nazokiyoubinbou The big question is how off the charts summer heat will be this year (or not).
I am curious if/how soon this scenario shows up...
WaPo: Why a power outage amid this Phoenix heat wave would be so deadly
"...The study’s researchers simulated what would happen if the residents of Phoenix, Atlanta and Detroit were struck by a heat wave and a complete blackout that lasts 48 hours before power starts to be incrementally restored. The outcomes were deadly in all three cities, but the results for Phoenix were particularly striking, where almost everyone in the city relies on air conditioning to weather extreme heat. The study predicted that about half the population would require emergency department care and about 13,000 would die. ..."
@ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou
It’s so crazy to me because there is a way to kind of handle extreme heat and that is to sit in relatively cool water.
If the power goes out, the fridges are going to collapse with it, but a bathtub if people still have them could save peoples lives
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou Great point! Hope we never have to test that one. But, filed that one away in the brain.
@ai6yr @GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 Won't water pumps stop if *all* power has gone out?
That is not to say you can't store water of course, but it will be room temperature and you can only store so much.
@nazokiyoubinbou @GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 Yes, this is a problem in wildfires in the LA area.
@ai6yr @nazokiyoubinbou @paul_ipv6
I remember there was a problem with the water supply for firefighting, but did the pumps fail or the water run out?
And aren’t a lot of of the sources fed by gravity?
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @nazokiyoubinbou @paul_ipv6 Pumps fill the water sources, which supply via gravity. No power, no refill of the water sources. Also, if there's too much fire, not enough water supply/flow is available.
@ai6yr @GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 In other words, water could still flow for a little while after a power loss, but then would stop, right?
Is it really just gravity though? There's so much pressure...
@nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr @paul_ipv6
Generally utilities have their own dependent water supply. That’s why if there’s a power outage water still flows and in the good old days, the phone still worked.
Because water has 17 times I think the heat capacity of air, it’s still quite capable of drawing away, body heat if it’s below body temperature.
If humidity is low dousing your head with water, will cool you remarkably well
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @ai6yr @paul_ipv6 Not sure about your area, but in mine humidity tends to be very high during the summer. Somehow even during droughts. (Don't ask me how that works because I don't know.)
But even if they have their own separate systems, if the whole grid is down it's probably eventually going to get them too, no? Unless they actually have their own entire power systems completely separated from the entire grid?
@nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr @paul_ipv6
I’ve always had the impression they had their own generators. If they run out of fuel. That doesn’t help.
@nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr @paul_ipv6
The key fact in all of this is that a warmer atmosphere can carry 7% more water vapor for every degree centigrade increase.
That means that the atmosphere is turning into the brawny of moisture sponges. It will suck all the moisture out of one area and if this supersaturated air mass runs into something cold, you get a biblical flood
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @nazokiyoubinbou @paul_ipv6 Also, look up "Wet Bulb Globe Temperature" and "human survival"
@ai6yr @GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 I have once before. Actually, I specifically had a science teacher teach it once! I miss schools letting teachers do their jobs...
I believe the rule was 37C wet bulb is the point at which the human body can no longer compensate?
Of course, that doesn't mean there aren't *MASSIVE* problems the closer one approaches that...
@nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr @paul_ipv6
More recent research has lowered that temperature. It would take a little searching around to find it, but I don’t think it’s hard. And I don’t remember what the difference in degrees centigrade.
The crazy thing that’s not often discussed is plants are also affected by heat index.
They cool their leaves and keep them from burning or cooking by letting moisture transpire out of their tissues
Water stress and humidity totally defeat that mechanism
@ai6yr @nazokiyoubinbou @paul_ipv6
Oh yeah, I did videos about that 2024, 2025 I think
@ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou
If it gets warm in my apartment, I’ll go and douse my head with water from the shower. If you have a T-shirt on and it gets stamped from all that water so much better. It works for I don’t know 15 or 20 minutes until it evaporates.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @ai6yr @nazokiyoubinbou
does anyone remember all the "how-to" posts for making neck coolers from diapers for the troops in the first desert storm? we could all be doing that again.
bjb 
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou
Phoenix better hope the Colorado River continues to supply water.
@bjb @GhostOnTheHalfShell @ai6yr @nazokiyoubinbou
PHX might need to get out their checkbook...
along with "tank girl", "mad max", and various post apocalypse movies coming true, "chinatown" and the water wars might be back.
Dan Neuman 🇨🇦@GhostOnTheHalfShell @ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou Hard to sleep in a tub of water during a 48 hour power outage. But maybe for spells to get your temperature down. A number of senior men (who had no social network) died a few summers ago in Montreal simply because they didn't have AC, which they had never needed before. Heat waves are devastating for the poor and elderly.
@dan613 @ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou
I agree, but it is a straightforward and possibly life-saving measure. There are other things that can be done such as airflow over wet towels in the like, but this only works if the heat index is low enough. Significant parts of the US south, as well as other parts of the world are facing unsurvivable heat indices from a warmer world
me_valentijn@dan613 @GhostOnTheHalfShell @ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou
A big problem I have with heat is that I'm too disabled to bathe or shower to cool down. The exhaustion of doing that repeatedly would leave me incapable of doing literally anything, including cooling myself further.
We got AC, despite living in the Netherlands where we didn't need it often (at the time). It was cheaper than hotel rooms and safer than getting hospitalized. Yet the official support for vulnerable people here remains grossly inadequate: it's merely advice to stay in the shade, hydrate, and put your feet in a tub of water 🙄
@me_valentijn @dan613 @ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou
That’s really scary
@me_valentijn @GhostOnTheHalfShell @ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @nazokiyoubinbou Ahh, thanks for pointing that out.
f*cking b*tch club@ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @GhostOnTheHalfShell @nazokiyoubinbou This is literally the first chapter of Kim Stanley Robinson’s “The Ministry for the Future”, isn’t it?
@grammasaurus @paul_ipv6 @GhostOnTheHalfShell @nazokiyoubinbou Yep. Your guess is as good as mine exactly what year will trigger this scenario, and if it will be Phoenix, Mumbai, Dhaka, or Lake Charles that will face those issues first. I would put my money within 10-15 years, if not sooner, depending on if we're on a roller coaster curve or not with the changes. (but, people have blocked me for even mentioning the possibility 🤪 )
3Jane Tessier Ashpool@grammasaurus @ai6yr @paul_ipv6 @GhostOnTheHalfShell @nazokiyoubinbou that chapter is still so chilling. And the drones downing planes.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr
the evil corp "Water & Power" from "tank girl" is starting to look way too plausible...
@paul_ipv6 @GhostOnTheHalfShell @ai6yr Honestly, almost every dystopian movie looks extremely real these days and all the people in power seem to actually *want* to be the bad guys. It's like they watched all of them as instructional from the point of view of "ok, now how would I defeat the good guys if that were me?"
@nazokiyoubinbou @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr
I had this crazy thought a few weeks ago, where I realized that somebody that had a dark triad personality (you can look it up) might interpret dystopian science fiction and fantasy completely different differently than the rest of us.
Similar to your own point, they think it’s great.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr Oh I didn't just come up with that one on my own.
Someone (I think Musk's own child?) said that he actually once stated he wanted to be like the bad guys in one of those movies.
And you know, with Musk as he is, I can kind of see it?
@nazokiyoubinbou @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr
That is one I have not quite heard. But it makes his stupid laugh all the more logical.
Now I can imagine him practicing in front of the mirror in his younger years
NilaJones
Captain of the SS El Faro@GhostOnTheHalfShell @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr not to mention the helium they need in chip production
With all of this happening, it does feel like a grand scale chuckle cluster fuck.
Down the ages, straight into antiquity, the folly of the superrich of the people at top have been responsible for the destruction of civilizations over and over and over again.
And gosh, darn it their record has remained completely unblemished
Woke Leftist Trash@ai6yr haha, by 2060, I suspect a third or more of the remaining GDP will be allocated to disaster relief.