Hey what stage of winning is it when our troops are maybe setting fire to their own multi billion dollar warships in order to avoid a war the pedopresident started and has no idea how to finish

@Lana

Shrug. Unlikely. But it's **very** likely that it was an accident caused by one or more exhausted crewmen.

cf: https://www.gao.gov/blog/lack-sleep-has-left-our-military-less-combat-ready-and-more-prone-accidents-dire-consequences

@lemgandi the interesting thing about simple sabotage done correctly is that it's functionally inseparable from human error.