@aeva back when I was your age, compilers didn't define behavior. just vibes

@aeva see people like Tom Duff invented Duff's Device and then a bunch of neckbeards convened and asked themselves "is this something a C compiler would allow" and decided YES and that is how things worked back then

@rygorous as a straw anarchist I believe well defined behavior is inherently authoritarian and should also be abolished

@aeva along the same lines I will argue back that defined behavior is ultimately at best a stochastic guarantee anyhow because every machine behaves incorrectly on a regular basis

@rygorous @aeva I'm amazed how my backups of computers I've owned thirty years ago still have the same checksum.