AI6YR BenWell, that's ONE way to cause a massive increase in gasoline prices. Because "affordability" is very important to voters.
BBC: Fire at UAE port after drone attack as Trump says military targets on Iran oil island 'obliterated'
Janice in GA@ai6yr Dammit, I already lived through gas rationing and long lines at the pumps in the 70s! I shouldn't have to do this again!!!
DianeElectric cars available in the USA are already vastly superior to the ones in the 1980s. And China is currently producing even better vehicles
Taran Rampersad@alienghic @Archergal @ai6yr in #trinidadandtobago people are driving loads of #byd vehicles.
#China is definitely going to win the #iranwar.
Without a shot fired.
Γιανίρης@iriyan @alienghic @Archergal @ai6yr That was a reference to the auto industry, not generation type.
That being said, as more electrical cars are used, increased load on the generation systems, yes.
And as auto use leans more on electrical... that can cause some major shifts that we can debate until we're blue in the face (hypoxia under present conditions).
But that's not what I'm referring to.
I'm referring to global penetration of electrical vehicles.
In some countries where electricity is pretty expensive, having an EV (car) appears just as a status/fashion statement. For example if you look at commodities tables elec/MWh per country you will wide variety. Italy is more than double what France is, both heavy automakers. Austria on a timed variation to regulate supply makes EV an economical choice, it cuts down daily transport cost to less than half. They drive all day they charge all night :)
But I wish I'd still be alive to see what they will do with mountains of dead motors and batteries in the 2030s on. At some point I would expect they will slap a recycling cost/charge for every EV and battery/motor sold, like a core charge. So recycling would become feasible .. and "choice" will be taxed.
@iriyan @knowprose @Archergal @ai6yr
As for recycling, the worst part is the tires and that's terrible for every kind of car or truck, and so could I interest you in metros, trams, or walking instead?
https://www.sciencealert.com/almost-50-of-microplastic-pollution-comes-from-cars-heres-why
You are knocking on the wrong door, I may work on engines I have been cycling and using public transport for the past 13 years now. But even when I did maintain a OV (oil vehicle :) when it was available I used more efficient means. I loved long train rides and hated air-travel, not from fear but how they treated people like cattle heading to the slaughter house.
I DO NOT HAVE an electric bicycle, I think they are an abomination, even at my age and geo-morphologoy of the area I live in sometimes make me wish I would change my mind. Maybe a 2stroke bicycle would be more appropriate for me. I always liked "off-grid" solutions and independence. You can power a small engine with rotting fruit and a small diesel with any cheap vegetable oil. It doesn't have to be fossil, but by no means is it a global alternative. We would burn off all organic substance in a year.
@iriyan @knowprose @Archergal @ai6yr
2 stroke engines make a huge amount of air pollution.
They heavy use of two stroke in the developing world is why it's so hard to breath in places like india and egypt.
It takes a lot of extra complexity to reduce the amount of pollution coming out of a combustion engine, so the better emissions controls are usually only found on larger vehicles.
Strokes don't make pollution, burned oil does, and the 1st world other than annual or biannual pseudo-inspections has no means in controlling the oil burned by 4stroke engines. Yamaha (RD350) back in early 80s made a clean 2stroke, it was still banned. Evinrude/Mercury even beat 4strokes and were still banned. Legislators can't tell a piston from an ashtray .. industry financial interests was what killed efficiency. 2strokes never made anyone rich.
Today they sell expensive maintenance and attrociously expensive electronic parts, engines have become complex and unreliable to create profits, not to save the environment.
Even bicycles, have gone out to deep end, just when they became refined and reasonable, a well stocked cycle shop today must have 10x the volume in parts to service more than 50% of bicycles than it did 10-20y ago.
The most aggressive enemy of the 2stroke engine was Honda, their profit formula made an enemy. With 50% of the market globally they had dome leverage. To ban an engine design not on output but on mechanical arrangement is illogical. It had nothing to do with pollution, it was the populist excuse so legislators can act.
They certainly didn't ban large industrial and ship engines from being 2 stroke, nearly all are, still today.