the "ethical AGI" side of OpenAI are yudkowsky believers, including the CTO who is now CEO

it is important to remember that yudkowsky's ideas are dumb and wrong and he has actually zero technological experience. he's an ideas guy.

this is gonna be fucking wild.

@davidgerard Wait.
So this is going to be *dumber* than what came before?!!
@davidgerard I'm really looking forward to see how much they fuck up. It's gonna be fun-

@davidgerard Given how stupid this particular timeline appears to be, I would not at all be surprised if this was a boardroom coup by TESCREAL nutjobs.

I only hope they effectively accelerate the implosion of the company. The world has enough rich and powerful facists right now.

@davidgerard Quotes from this article point in this general direction:

"This was the board doing its duty to the mission of the nonprofit, which is to make sure that OpenAI builds AGI that benefits all of humanity."

"Mission of the nonprofit" being the operative clause.

https://www.businessinsider.com/3-open-ai-researchers-resign-sam-altman-dismissal-ceo-2023-11

3 OpenAI researchers resign following Sam Altman's dismissal: report

Jakub Pachocki, Aleksander Madry, and Szymon Sidor told associates at OpenAI that they had quit, The Information reported.

Insider
@zenkat "boardroom coup by TESCREAL nutjobs" is both much more innocuous than the announcement sounds and much funnier

@davidgerard Only innocuous if you haven't read what some of those folks believe. They want to build a silicon god in their own image to birth trillions of synthetic puppets, and are willing to allow millions of deaths to further that goal.

Beware the true believers, they beget monsters.

@davidgerard @zenkat

I thought Sam was a TESCREAL nutjob.

@zenkat @davidgerard "Benefits all of humanity" is the single reason they're not going to get anything done. Almost all of the money put toward ai is to make more money for already rich people.
@zenkat @davidgerard i mean they said they wanted to pause ai research for six months and this chaos is in practice about the best way one could actually set back big llm develoment by about six months
@davidgerard It’s new territory for HR: how do you handle a subset of your employees who literally believe they’re creating new life? How do you convince them to let you build an App Store atop your Frankenstein?

@davidgerard oh lol I was thinking it would be something bland and mundane like Altman lying about how expensive ChatGPT is to run. This is so much more hilarious and stupid.

Time to get some popcorn!

@davidgerard oh I saw some insane conspiracy theories on LinkedIn that Sam was ousted because the company built and AGI and they couldn't agree how to announce it
@davidgerard
it's a bit like a rollercoaster with rockets strapped to it, except people like yudkowsky aren't the ones in the roller coaster; the people in the roller coaster are practially all people whose views where never considered when it was built.

@davidgerard Looking at the their website, it says the board is "Greg Brockman (Chairman & President), Ilya Sutskever (Chief Scientist), and Sam Altman (CEO), and non-employees Adam D’Angelo, Tasha McCauley, Helen Toner".

It's funny that it still lists Altman and Brockman; this was not well executed.

How many of these other people are from the Yudkowsky crowd? I see McCauley has Singularity University and Future of Life Institute connections, so I'm guessing her.

@davidgerard
Excellent.🍿 I was hoping that the folks whose beat is the cryptocurrency fiasco would be covering this AI crap. The similarities and common characters really call for it.
@davidgerard My only question about this shitty timeline we're on is when do we get to the Butlerian Jihad part?
@davidgerard all i know about this guy is he got pissed off at the basilisk and wrote a 100 chapter harry potter fanfic that made less sense than the original books

@davidgerard I know it’s early days on this story. And I know the board of the nonprofit is not like a typical Silicon Valley BoD. But I still expect it’s about money, lying about money, lying about what the SW actually does, lying about how ~no people were actually working on safety, etc.

This is based on no actual knowledge, so … watching and waiting.

@davidgerard Which does not mean the BoD is not filled with wild-eyed true believers. Just to be clear on my previous post
@davidgerard He's an ideas guy? *boggle* I assumed he had got through life so far by having elite skills in another area.
@davidgerard Oh, so they're going to produce a big-budget film based on Harry Potter fanfic?