RE: https://mastodon.social/@fsfe/116131145887510612

@volla has initiated the industry consortium #UnifiedAttestation for an open-source alternative to Google Play Integrity. That will be a game-changer. All major European OS producers are joining. We have a golden opportunity now to boot out Google.

@vollaficationist @volla Unified Attestation is the direct opposite of keeping Android open. It's an anti-competitive centralized system putting Volla and other companies selling devices working with them in control of which devices and operating systems people are allowed to use. It's the direct opposite of open. There's nothing neutral or fair about companies approving using their products while disallowing others. Unified Attestation needs to be stopped.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116239523775374959

@GrapheneOS Which companies are "disallowed" to partake in #UnifiedAttestation? You have formally and informally been cordially invited. As are any and all other OS manufacturers. Please, let's ease the tone. What about a constructive talk? I believe we should support one another wherever possible and meaningful. Considering the vast market potential, we have all much to gain. Some will choose GOS, some VOS, etc. It's a big cake. Let's ditch Google - unified. Good day!

@vollaficationist @GrapheneOS as the brand that focuses the most towards user privacy and security, it makes sense for GrapheneOS to not support something like this which is basically Google but European with its own user surveillance stuff (even if they say, they don't we will just have to trust them blindly like we do with Apple products and consistently there have been proofs that /e/ does communicate with Google and OpenAI servers for stuff that Graphene and Calyx could already without connecting to them, so it's false marketing in a way).

While I do think having an alternative to Play Integrity API is good and it's better than nothing but hardware attestation is the best way to do it. And Volla & Murena doing something that gives them total control instead of pushing something focused towards privacy like hardware attestation shows that there have some ulterior motives. And with EU also pushing for surveillance like Chat Control and backdoors, I'm not sure this is a good idea.

@skywalker2k17 @GrapheneOS Look, it's not "Volla and Murena." It's an open approach. If you have a better idea, pursue it. UA invites any and all. Please understand that the crux of the matter is to achieve app compatibility outside of googlag.
@vollaficationist @skywalker2k17 It's not an open approach but rather an anti-competitive cartel formed between multiple companies to permit their products while locking out others. GrapheneOS won't participate and we'll file a lawsuit against each company involved for banning GrapheneOS. Unified Attestation is nothing short of a declaration of war on not only GrapheneOS but anyone who wants to be able to choose their hardware and software without needing approval from the EU and EU companies.
@GrapheneOS @skywalker2k17 you keep repeating your magical words, my friend. It won't change a thing. Time was much better spent with a constructive dialogue set to solve problems pragmatically. Perhaps Canadian laws could be the problem? πŸ€” Just one example of thinking.
@vollaficationist @skywalker2k17 We're explaining to people what you're actually doing and how it's going to harm them to have an EU consortium of companies in control of which hardware and software they're allowed to use. It's absolutely going to change things. People aren't yet widely aware of how you're declaring war on their freedom to use alternatives including GrapheneOS. Both Canada and the EU forbid companies getting together to make a system allowing their products but not others.

@GrapheneOS @vollaficationist @skywalker2k17 Very insightful and productive arguments you're having there.

Shall we schedule a time for the upcoming season finale or...? Oh, but please do not spoil the ending for us spectators--limit the damage, as to say.

Please do remember to RSVP.

Thanks,
Lysander

@vollaficationist @GrapheneOS @skywalker2k17 Eh, you win some, you lose some. πŸ˜†
@Phobos1641 @GrapheneOS @skywalker2k17 lol, yes, and PERFECTLY fine with that. If GOS says no, well, ok, the consortium moves on without them. (But they will always have a standing invitation nonetheless)
@vollaficationist You still haven't addressed the actual criticism. The point still stands that Volla and the other companies involved in this have a massive conflict of interest. The same conflict of interest Google has with Play Integrity. "Unified Attestation" being European doesn't make this conflict of interest go away. As an EU citizen: You're not helping Europeans, you aren't doing anything good for consumers. This is still an anti-competitive move and needs to be investigated, just like Google needs to be investigated and regulated because of their monopolistic Play Integrity API.