Insanity of saying the US fueled, funded, and permitted (with the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA even going so far as to say he will help Israel “do what they need to do”) genocide in Gaza isn’t US politics aside, why the fuck would you name your com “politics” and not allow politics from the hundreds of other countries?

Name your damn com US politics then, and maybe learn about the impacts of US foreign policy and recognize that the imperial hegemonic effects of the USs actions actually are US politics.

JFC that’s a stupid com.

It honestly hurts my brain and I would be more inclined to laugh about it if it didn’t hurt my heart so badly to see discussion of the Palestinian Genocide so clearly silenced by people like Jordan Lund.

You aren’t being silenced, you were re-directed to the appropriate community which is [email protected] , not !politics.

• /politics has several explicitly defined rules. Which one states only US politics are accepted?
• Why would a com called /politics not allow discussions about politics?
• If the goal is to restrict posts to us politics, why aren’t you using a com like /us_politics?
• If the goal is to restrict posts to US politics, why don’t the impacts of US foreign policy or reports on domestic coverage of US aided foreign wars not count as pertaining to the US?
• US taxes are paying for Israeli bombs used to genocide Palestinians. How is that not related to US politics?

It’s literally the first line on the sidebar:

• If the goal is to restrict posts to us politics, why aren’t you using a com like /us_politics?

Good question, the community was set up before I was brought on board, I can’t say why they set it up that way, simply that it is.

• If the goal is to restrict posts to US politics, why don’t the impacts of US foreign policy or reports on domestic coverage of US aided foreign wars not count as pertaining to the US?

Unless the news article specifically points to US policy or political action, it doesn’t belong in Politics. This isn’t six degrees of separation.

World exists for non-us World news.

• US taxes are paying for Israeli bombs used to genocide Palestinians. How is that not related to US politics?

Because no US politician or policy authorizes the genocide. That’s an Israeli war crime. The US provided funding for legitimate defense, not genocide.

You can see what they THINK they were funding through sites like this:

ajc.org/…/what-every-american-should-know-about-u…

Now, you and I both know Israel isn’t ACTUALLY using the funding for that, but that’s on Israel.

As I said in another post, the funding was done in good faith, Israel is using it in bad faith.

Because no US politician or policy authorizes the genocide. That’s an Israeli war crime. The US provided funding for legitimate defense, not genocide.

Weird, considering a majority of the are fully okay in supporting it. Hell even Kamala fully embraced it to not hurt Biden

They did not support genocide. They support Israel as a nation and there is a difference.

Too many people honestly believe Netanyahu is capable of acting in good faith, you and I both know he’s not, but that’s not going to stop those who support Israel.

Stop acting like an idiot. Don’t talk about things you don’t understand

It’s super hard, you actually have to pay attention to what people say and remember it for later reference.

press.armywarcollege.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?arti…

"As a sovereign state and UN member, Israel has the right to use military force to defend itself from an armed attack. Article 51 of the UN Charter makes this right abundantly clear, and self-defense is perhaps the least contested legal basis for a state resorting to military force. Article 51 reads:

“Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security.”5

So when Biden, or Harris, or Schumer or anyone else said they needed funding for Israel’s defense, that is what they were talking about.

The problem, as you and I both know, is that Israel has gone beyond defense, but nobody is willing to rein them in.

It is palestinians, lebanese and iranians who has the right to resist a country who threatening the whole region . Those are the countries who should be funded not the terrorist state of Israel

I don’t personally disagree, I’m explaining to you the rationale of the people repeatedly voting to fund the defense of Israel.

The reason they do so is that the United States was fundamental in the creation and recognition of the state of Israel, and as a result, doesn’t feel responsible for the defense of those other states.

There is no rational in voting for a settler colonial power who’s goal is to exterminate sll people thst are not jews from the land they claims god gave to them. How about helping sudan for example over Israel?

If I’m being brutally honest? When it comes to the American system of government? Israelis are white people. Really, it’s just deep seated racism, again.

Americans are fucking awful about that. We would rather suffer without universal health care than allow minorities to get help.

nytimes.com/…/universal-health-care-racism.html

If I’m being brutally honest? When it comes to the American system of government? Israelis are white people.

Which explains everything about your bad faith pro-genocide moderation.

I am not pro genocide, I blame the people actually doing the genocide, which is Israel.

I blame the people actually doing the genocide, which is Israel.

I blame the netanyahu government and their enablers in both US parties. Keep washing your hands.

Well we can mostly agree then. Netanyahu is a pestilent boil on the face of the world, it would be nice to have more US politicians point that out, but it will not happen as long as the money is stacked against that.

politico.com/…/aipac-illinois-primary-israel-demo…

To be clear, I don’t think US Politicians deeply care about Israel one way or another. They care about campaign dollars, and they care about their Christo-Fascist voting base wanting Jeebus to come quicker. That’s pretty much all there is to it.

Maybe that makes me cynical.