@thomasfuchs Actually, I think here the ai (or whatever it's called) gets it better than racially biased humans.
Is the guy on the right really 'whiter'? The skin tone looks pretty much the same to me; the difference between shadow and light side in one picture is a lot higher.
Obama has a white-ish enough skintone that he could be white-passing if other features wouldn't flip the switch in our brain to 'black'.
@Schafstelze @thomasfuchs hmmm can’t agree. This is classic “improving” low resolution picture with ai bullshit. There’s enough information in the original that many people will see who this is. The ai is shit and simply replaces it with somethjng that might fit. It doesn’t. I fucking hate it.
@Wifiwits @thomasfuchs That's my point. We recognize the person, so we think that the left pic must have a darker skin tone. But not really?

@Schafstelze @Wifiwits @thomasfuchs It’s true that “blackness” and “whiteness” in racial terms is not only, or sometimes at all, about skin tone; the words are misnomers.

Fun fact about me regarding Obama’s skin and race: as an Australian who had only the vaguest, broadest level of interest in US politics at the time, when Obama first came to prominence as a candidate, his blackness didn’t even occur to me; I literally just thought of him as the smarter, more progressive one until someone pointed out the *reason* that some monkey caricature of him that got used was so offensive was the racism. It just hadn’t occurred to me until that moment how race was a factor there. (This is not a virtue signalling“look at how colourblind I am”; our racism in this country is different, is all, so I didn’t recognise it at first in that situation at that time.)

@whybird @Wifiwits @thomasfuchs my point is, we think the pic is funny because AI 'gets it totally wrong' (as we are bias-confirmed due to not liking AI). But if you pixel the right guy, the result could (!) look pretty much the same as the left guy.

@Schafstelze @Wifiwits @thomasfuchs Yes; it is just a great demonstration of the degree to which AI image enhancement is just making up anything plausible rather than having any basis in actual reality. It’s not that the right photo couldn’t in theory have been the source of the left one; it’s the fact that in this case we all have a good idea of what the actual source looked like, so we can immediately see just how wrong it is.

If anything, like you said the racial aspect just shows how much more emphasis we humans place on racial characteristics than plain averages would suggest, but also, importantly, that probably the AI training sees the ‘average’ or default person as having white characteristics.

@Schafstelze I disagree with the idea that the right photo could pixelize into the one on the right, IMO there is bunch of differences around ears and eyes that wouldn't make it, and I don't buy the skin colour argument either.

However, even if that is just my bias from knowing the photo speaking, where the fuck on the right is the white of the shirt collar?

@horenmar I realize that I based my answer mostly on the alttext, which not everyone read; i'm not saying that the AI is 'good' but just comparing the skin tone, I don't see the difference between left and right pic.