Ariadne Conill 🐰Mar 17

*clicks onto linkedin*

> half the posts are from techbro *men* talking about their AI pals that they have made

> some of their AI pals are depicted with early 20s female avatars

> the techbros are 50+ years old

*clicks off of linkedin in disgust*

Show threadLaurent BercotMar 18
@ariadne look, I'm all for giving these guys AI sexbots if it makes them leave real women alone
Show threadCassandrichMar 18

@ska @ariadne Narrator: It didn't make them leave real women alone.

It just let them normalize the feel of having that kind of power relationship.

The same way letting them have "AI slaves" won't make them want to bring back human slavery any less, but rather more.

It just whets their appetite.

Show threadLaurent BercotMar 18

@dalias @ariadne Sure. But you could say the same thing about porn, which I see as a net positive for society, because imagine guys without that outlet.

I think that guys who want that kind of power will want it anyway, and letting them have some sort of substitute minimizes harm. I may be wrong about this. I'm not recommending we set up scientific trials to study what the net result is.

Show threadCassandrichMar 18
@ska @ariadne I mean for certain types of "porn" (particularly, CSAM, but maybe some other things too?) I think it does make things worse not serve as an "outlet" or "harm minimization". Probably this has something to do with whether the production itself involves the awful power dynamic they crave, vs legitimate porn where production is consensual.
Show threadLaurent Bercot

@dalias @ariadne Yeah I thought it was obvious that the issue with CSAM is production, and its consumption is bad because it's an incentive to produce more.

I don't know how I really feel about AI-generated CSAM, if that's a thing (who are we kidding, of course that's a thing). Disgusted, certainly, but I kinda see it as "sick" more than "evil", if that makes sense.

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