nation of professional protesters

https://sh.itjust.works/post/56935952

Do those actually achieve anything? The biggest protests we hard about where the ones against pensions reform and this reform was only delayed when the ruling party failed to form the government several times. It was result of typical politics, not protests.

What I see happening over and over in Spain is:

  • Some union announces a strike and presents it demands
  • They sit and negotiate with the government
  • (optional) They don’t reach an agreement, strike is enacted and services are limited to legally guaranteed 'necessary minimum’
  • They reach an agreement, strike ends.
  • No protests, no grilling on the tram rails. Just negotiating and using legal leverage. Last one was railway strikes after series of accidents. They reached an agreement before the strike. Unions called it “historic” and won better investment in maintenance and personnel.

    So, do the French protest actually achieve anything or does it only look nice in memes? Can someone give some examples of what they won recently?

    Protests and labor strikes increase the leverage workers have when negotiating for better compensation. There is no leverage if there is no protest.

    One of my favorite examples was a mutiny during WWI where they were fed up with charging to their deaths. The tangible results were the commander got sacked and they didn’t have to charge to their death.

    Yes, I even gave concrete example of how rail workers in Spain used this leverage recently.

    I’m asking for concrete examples from France. What did they achieve recently? WWI is not recently.

    35 hr work week has been maintained apnews.com/general-news-96d7f44de4e44f1ebdc7bf86f…
    French protest against bill tampering with 35-hour week

    Tens of thousands of people protested across France on Wednesday against President Francois Hollande's determination to achieve what his conservative predecessor didn't even dare to try _ tamper with the 35-hour workweek. Workers, unemployed and youths joined forces on Wednesday, answering calls from student organizations and unions in more than 200 cities across France to try to kill the bill, which has even divided Hollande's ruling Socialist party.

    AP News

    This law did pass: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Khomri_law

    Very curious you claim that they maintained 35 hours work week while only posting a link about the protests. It’s like people think that protesting something == getting something.

    El Khomri law - Wikipedia

    You seem to be right. I was wrong. I really thought they won that one!

    The showing was amazing and inspiring, but if they didn’t win the thing they were fighting for, then we need to learn a lesson from that too. Thanks for pushing back.