@stroughtonsmith It's one of the *many* issues with the design trends.

Icons become pure visual noise. And they are wildly inconsistent between apps even in the same app suite by the same company. And you can't always find a good icon metaphor to fit into a 16x16 box.

It's not just an Apple issue. It's the industry issue

@dmitriid @stroughtonsmith not to mention when different developers use different icons for similarly/same menu items across apps. Or how you can’t even make out what they are on non-retina displays.

(Almost all offices don’t offer their employees Studio Displays).

@marioguzman @dmitriid none of this is an excuse not to do them, though — all of these things are bugs that they've chosen to ship, not an existential flaw. We need more highly-specific icons. We need more standardized icons. We need better lowdpi support.

The answer as to why now? Because iOS already does it, and macOS is aligning with iOS, as it has been for decades. macOS is aligning with iOS because users expect it, developers are building for it, and it ties into touchscreen support

@stroughtonsmith @marioguzman @dmitriid

Strong NO.

macOS is different for very good reasons, and all tries to merge them, both in function and design, have failed spectacularly, as we have seen with "Broken Glass" and the countless new bugs in the unified "UIKit" on macOS.

I want people at Apple who understand that difference, and don't force miserably failed UI ideas from iOS to the Mac.

@stroughtonsmith @marioguzman @dmitriid

You should really talk to some Mac users and what they think about "Broken Glass" and the amount of bugs creeping up. Doing support for my Mac applications, I have yet to find a single user liking the new interface style, and the constant crashes in macOS...