GluekMar 17
iFixit

The new MacBook Neo is the most repairable MacBook we’ve seen in 14 years. Screwed-in battery tray, modular ports, sensible layout, and day-one repair manuals. It’s not perfect, but it’s a real step forward for MacBook repair. Read the full breakdown at the link below.

https://www.ifixit.com/News/116152/macbook-neo-is-the-most-repairable-macbook-in-14-years
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Mar 17 at 5:47pmWeb
Show threadLongplay GamesMar 17
@iFixit Steps forward are steps forward, and I'm happy to see it.
Show threadJames CMar 17
@iFixit I have no need but I kinda want one.
Show threadAmbulocetusMar 17
@iFixit It sounds too good to be true. What's the "catch"?
Show thread10tothe22Mar 17
@Ambulocetus @iFixit There isn’t a catch. Apple filling out the price/value slots. This is a low risk attempt at growth in the low-cost laptop market. Honestly, they may knock it out of the park. I mean every school and school kid. Retail even.
Show threadCarlos SolísMar 17
Arguably, the catch is that the RAM caps at 8 GB, but that's due to the architecture of the device. (I wonder how much can it rely on swapfiles to compensate...)
Show threadShadSterlingMar 18
@Ambulocetus @iFixit the “catch” is that “most repairable MacBook” is not very repairable - 6 out of 10 on their own scale, according to another post about it - https://wandering.shop/@xgranade/116247073087510880
Cassandra is only carbon now (@[email protected])

This is both very significant, and still a 6/10 on iFixit's scale. Good for Apple on doing better than they used to, and good on those governments that have correctly used regulatory pressure to push Apple into doing so.

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Show threadJhooperMar 17
@iFixit it would be nice if the Switch 2 console was as easy to repair.
Show threadmake-logMar 17

@iFixit I am wondering if the increased repairability is due to Apple being good and sustainable or laws that enforce this.

I guess the latter is the case.

Show threadRenMar 17
@iFixit I am throughly shocked at this device. My one complaint is it still needs calibration software when you swap parts, but the software is included in the OS at least.
Show threadJason Bowen 🇺🇦Mar 17
@rogueren @iFixit
What does it need to "calibrate?"
Show threadRenMar 17
@jbowen @iFixit 🤷
Show threadMarco Antonio PérezMar 17
@iFixit @Barredo Es muy buena noticia
Show threadUncMar 17
@iFixit Oh! So Apple CAN let us repair their computers. Interesting.
Show threadJanMar 17

@tubrofan211 @iFixit Do not get a head of yourself. First you need to become an Apple Cetrified Technicien. Us mere mortals are too incapable to work on Apple devices.

At the very least it is nice to see that manufacturers have been lying through their teeth about repairability.

Show threadJason Bowen 🇺🇦Mar 17
@Fenrasulfr @tubrofan211 @iFixit
"most repairable macbook" is a very, very low bar.
Show threadJanMar 17
@jbowen @tubrofan211 @iFixit Maybe but it shows that the company famous for being creating extremely difficult to repair devices with software locks just showed that they ar pefectly capable of making fully repairable devices.
Show threadMagnus AhltorpMar 17
@Fenrasulfr @jbowen @tubrofan211 @iFixit You do know that they have had laptops with even hot-swappable batteries, special easy-access hatches for memory, easily replaceable hard drives with decent repair manuals, etc? It’s mostly their recent stuff that has been soldered down and glued.
Show threadJanMar 17
@ahltorp @jbowen @tubrofan211 @iFixit Yes I know Apple and many other manufactures were perfectly repairable. It was also Apple that popularised non repairable designs.
Show threadMagnus AhltorpMar 17
@Fenrasulfr Laptops were not ”perfectly repairable” in the ’90s.
Show threadJanMar 17
@ahltorp You get what I mean, compared to today, you could "easily" open up laptops and get repair parts for them. Some allowed you to upgrade components long befor Framework was a thing. So please stop being so pedantic.
Show threadMagnus AhltorpMar 17

@Fenrasulfr I've worked 35 years on and with laptops, and repairability has fluctuated both for Apple and non-Apple laptops. Early laptops were known for being easy to take apart and very difficult to put together.

Quite recently I tried to rescue data from a PC laptop hard drive, which I managed to get out, but only to find that the interface was not compatible with anything.

Apple needs to be bashed for a lot of things, but here I don't think they've been any worse than the others.

Show threadJanMar 17
@ahltorp I do not think they are the worst either, but they were definitely the once that popularised the modern laptop.
I honnestly think the worst are the companies that make 200 euro throw away laptops to scam unknowing people with.
Show threadJason Bowen 🇺🇦Mar 19

@Fenrasulfr @tubrofan211 @iFixit
I don't think there's any doubt that they *can* do it. However their entire corporate ethos is to wall users in (both in software and hardware) and force new hardware purchases over simple repairs.

I get the love for the early days with Woz, but those are long, long gone.

Show threadPhillip PlaysMar 17
@iFixit Good news! Working on laptops is such a bitch, but I'm glad we at least can if we need to 😂
Show threadPairkoMar 17
@iFixit
#Framework creating ripples that even make Apple move? Cool.
Show threadSilicon DryadMar 17
@iFixit my goodness, is it opposite day??!!
Show threadNoel KellyMar 17

@iFixit

Oh, look they put an iphone 16 in a laptop case.

Show threadDawn Tåke 🌙 Mar 18
@iFixit
Thinking about how one of the ports in my non-Mac laptop is filled with a rubber plug because the plastic bit broke out and it's a part of the motherboard, so it can't be replaced. :/
Show threadpibert πMar 18
@iFixit apple felt the stocks lol
Show threadcslinuxboyMar 18
@iFixit Did Apple outsource the Neo to Framework to build? ;)
Show threadPeetz0r1d ago

@cslinuxboy @iFixit Nah. It may be reasonably repairable, but nothing is upgradable. Pretty sure Framework wouldn't design something like this.

Also imnsho Apple is disqualifying themselves by sticking with pentalobe while torx is right there. Yes, practically speaking this is a non-issue since every precision-bitset comes with pentalobe now. But still.

And they used to know how to make really repairable and upgradable machines. Look at the 2001 Powerbook G4. You can remove the keyboard without any tools, and then replace the standard sodimm memory without any tools.

They can call the Neo "most repairable Macbook" only because they named their earlier laptops sligtly differently. And even then, I doubt this is better than the 2006-era Macbooks.

Show threadMr. ESE💧🕹️6d ago
@iFixit
Woah, I did not predict that!
Show threadmonkee 1d ago
@iFixit The baseline is low - so "the best" does not mean that much ​​