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Felicitas Pojtinger 🌅The fact that I can use a Linux phone in China and be a fully participating member of society, including mobile payments and everything, but I can't do that in any EU country, the US or Canada due to the payment methods there requiring SafetyNet and China not requiring that, has really broken my brain a little bit
Anyways, heading to Shenzen again tomorrow and going to see how far I can get with just a Linux phone. If I can pay for and control the massage chair in the local mall with it (WeChat mini app) I'm going to actually go crazy because in Canada the same phone can't even buy me a sandwich
keithzg@pojntfx Even just having put LineageOS on my old but still functioning fine Pixel (4aXL) made not only Google Wallet refuse to let me use my TD credit card for tap-to-pay, but it also silently disabled RCS! Actually getting security updates is Bad, because the most important thing is that the software be corporate-published, nothing else matters.
Carney may regret the visa-free Chinese travel deal, since it could give us Canadians experience with a technologically-functional society . . .
Carney may regret the visa-free Chinese travel deal, since it could give us Canadians experience with a technologically-functional society . . .
LisPi
Cameron Jones@pojntfx do you still require a Chinese bank account for WeChat Pay?
That was the part which stitched me up a a few years ago
Jacob Scharmberg@pojntfx that is interesting indeed. Are you using wechat through waydroid?
blinry
Murat Kaan@pojntfx Which Linux phone are you using? I believe you said HarmonyOS is non-Linux?
contrasocialI mean, you still have to go through WeChat so it kind of makes the whole distinction moot.
Solsetur@contrasocial @pojntfx part of wechat’s success is notably how it can be installed on even very basic phones, that aided their widespread adoption
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artemist@pojntfx I have commented before how it is somewhat curious that it would be technically possible to install google pay on a device with known security vulnerabilities, provision a card, dump the private keys and card information, then copy that over to another, more secure, phone with an emv emulator, based on the public emv specifications.
it would require a lot of code and effort, but it is on my long list of projects in backlog.
@pojntfx There are some banks in the EU that allow EMV payments on unofficial android builds, e.g. curve. With some work to add host card emulation to waydroid it could be possible to get mobile payments for EU residents (which would work in any country).
There are few, if any, banks that have their own mobile payment solution in the US though.
CM Thiede
🏳️⚧️PepperTheVixen🦯@pojntfx Over here, we require the use of super ultra mega secret secure hardware inside the SOC in order to make payments... even though you can just do them within a browser without any of that crap as well. Truly mystifying technology that only the techbros have the wisdom to understand /s
mossfet -> EMF 2026@pojntfx wait omg how
spherulitic@pojntfx it's crazy I can't use tap to pay with my GrapheneOS Pixel because it's, what, too secure?
Cassandrich@pojntfx Wow, and I couldn't even get WeChat to run without locking my account as soon as it detected I had root access on the phone... 🤬
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Greenpete 